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<blockquote data-quote="WhosDaDungeonMaster" data-source="post: 7557345">You might not consider Barbarians 1E, but I certainly do since it was removed from 2E completely until the source books later came out. For our group, also, we didn't jump into 2E until it was out for a couple years, making the time span of the Barbarians in 1E longer for us at least.As far as the Paladin, maybe that was your experience, but it was far from mine. So, experiences differ as do playing styles. Nothing new there LOL!Paladins varied in how they served their god, etc. and observed their tenants. Prior to UA and the re-subclass into Cavalier, you could also have Paladins favoring a variety of armor and weapons, deploying their spells differently when the got them, and so on. Lawful Good can be played in many ways and to different degrees as well. But the Paladin is also only one particular class, which was designed to fit a very specific niche. If your experience always saw the Paladin being played the same way, I don't know what to tell you other than I would have to attribute it to a lack of imagination.One Paladin I played in high school was named &quot;Raymond the Black&quot; because he struggled between obeying the commands of his liege and his patron, and accepting the consequences that sometime came with following through on the tenants of Lawful Good. He also had his shield heraldry covered, like the &quot;black knights&quot; of old. He also used a two-handed sword as his primary weapon. During that same era, a player Jason had his Paladin, Banedon, and was very much the &quot;In the name of all that is righteous and good&quot; type, willing to sacrifice all for another. Years later, in graduate school, a friend of mine, Shawn, played his Paladin, Xavier, who was more the &quot;tally-ho! and sally-forth!&quot;, more interested in making a name for himself by doing those good-deeds than in the result of the goodness he did. All three still obeyed their alignment restriction, but to different degrees and in different ways.So, not Paladins are the same by any means, even in 1E, at least not here. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="WhosDaDungeonMaster, post: 7557345"] You might not consider Barbarians 1E, but I certainly do since it was removed from 2E completely until the source books later came out. For our group, also, we didn't jump into 2E until it was out for a couple years, making the time span of the Barbarians in 1E longer for us at least. As far as the Paladin, maybe that was your experience, but it was far from mine. So, experiences differ as do playing styles. Nothing new there LOL! Paladins varied in how they served their god, etc. and observed their tenants. Prior to UA and the re-subclass into Cavalier, you could also have Paladins favoring a variety of armor and weapons, deploying their spells differently when the got them, and so on. Lawful Good can be played in many ways and to different degrees as well. But the Paladin is also only one particular class, which was designed to fit a very specific niche. If your experience always saw the Paladin being played the same way, I don't know what to tell you other than I would have to attribute it to a lack of imagination. One Paladin I played in high school was named "Raymond the Black" because he struggled between obeying the commands of his liege and his patron, and accepting the consequences that sometime came with following through on the tenants of Lawful Good. He also had his shield heraldry covered, like the "black knights" of old. He also used a two-handed sword as his primary weapon. During that same era, a player Jason had his Paladin, Banedon, and was very much the "In the name of all that is righteous and good" type, willing to sacrifice all for another. Years later, in graduate school, a friend of mine, Shawn, played his Paladin, Xavier, who was more the "tally-ho! and sally-forth!", more interested in making a name for himself by doing those good-deeds than in the result of the goodness he did. All three still obeyed their alignment restriction, but to different degrees and in different ways. So, not Paladins are the same by any means, even in 1E, at least not here. :) [/QUOTE]

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