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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Green Adam" data-source="post: 4612457" data-attributes="member: 50821">Ah but for me its a perfect opportunity to play...wait for it...other games. That means besides D&D. If needed, smelling salts are easily reachable. Just teasin'. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> In all seriousness though I bought the 4E box set of the three core books, read through them, was very disappointed, tried to see if I was missing something by playing through a 6-8 hour session a few weeks later, said thank you and promptly went on to play a lot of Traveller, Mutants and Mastermids, Star Trek, etc. AD</blockquote>