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<blockquote data-quote="Kelleris" data-source="post: 1757829" data-attributes="member: 19130">Well, I've played a SPUB in the past - that would be a spell-point-using Bard - and found it to be acceptable.&nbsp; I ran out of points faster than slots, and my DM was planning on giving me more points, but we didn't get to play enough for me to be comfortable with picking a percentage.&nbsp; In any case, it didn't imperil my effectiveness as a ninja too much.As far as the Psion goes, the rules in UA and the XPH give Sorcerers fewer spell points, fewer spells known, and more restrictive scaling and casting than Psions.&nbsp; Draw your own conclusions.&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />EDIT:&nbsp; Checked my book - Sorcs get 249 points at level 20, compared to 343 for the Psion.&nbsp; Psions take the lead starting at 2nd level, and it just keeps getting wider.&nbsp; Oddly, though, Sorcs have only 17 more spell points than Wizards at 20th level.&nbsp; Huh?&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused&nbsp; &nbsp; :confused:"&nbsp; data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kelleris, post: 1757829, member: 19130"] Well, I've played a SPUB in the past - that would be a spell-point-using Bard - and found it to be acceptable. I ran out of points faster than slots, and my DM was planning on giving me more points, but we didn't get to play enough for me to be comfortable with picking a percentage. In any case, it didn't imperil my effectiveness as a ninja too much. As far as the Psion goes, the rules in UA and the XPH give Sorcerers fewer spell points, fewer spells known, and more restrictive scaling and casting than Psions. Draw your own conclusions. :p EDIT: Checked my book - Sorcs get 249 points at level 20, compared to 343 for the Psion. Psions take the lead starting at 2nd level, and it just keeps getting wider. Oddly, though, Sorcs have only 17 more spell points than Wizards at 20th level. Huh? :confused: [/QUOTE]

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