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<blockquote data-quote="MoxieFu" data-source="post: 5214755" data-attributes="member: 41849"><p>Back when I was DMing I had a player who was hell-bent on "winning" the game. He didn't just want to just beat the DM, he also wanted to dominate the other players and their characters. He cheated on die rolls. He also had a very consistent tendency to "just happen to" forget the disadvantages his characters had as well as how spells, magic items, etc worked.</p><p></p><p>I and my co-dm distributed magic items with making sure that all members in the party could have something to use, but every time something was found, he wound up with it. In our 3.5E game the co-dm and I calculated magic item values and he had MORE than the rest of the entire party COMBINED. The players would just allow him to absorb all the items given out but then expected the DM's to do something about it.</p><p></p><p>We (the DM's) even went so far as to post emails to all the players lists of items all the characters had and how much total value each character had. I hated doing this because it absolutely destroys all verisimilitude, but that's what we did. Though I no longer play they are still gaming and STILL do this as a standard practice after five years!</p><p></p><p>The other DM and I talked to him and he begrudgingly allowed us to reduce the power of an insanely unbalanced item that the other DM had created but he still had more value in magic items than any other party member by far. </p><p></p><p>Between cheating and hoarding magic items he could destroy any creature in one round that would wipe the floor with the rest of the party. He made it impossible to create encounters that would challenge the entire party without risking a TPK, with the possible exception of his character.</p><p></p><p>We couldn't kick him out of the game because we are all old friends from college and even high school back in the early 80's. We only get together to game as friends and don't take the game too seriously, but his determination to absolutely dominate the game completely destroyed the fun of it for me.</p><p></p><p>I had other reasons for quitting that were more important than this, but it was a significant factor in my decision. I would love to be able to still get together with them to have a laugh, but not so much for the gaming. Gaming with them as a player it would still irk me when he was obviously cheating. But I couldn't tolerate it DMing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MoxieFu, post: 5214755, member: 41849"] Back when I was DMing I had a player who was hell-bent on "winning" the game. He didn't just want to just beat the DM, he also wanted to dominate the other players and their characters. He cheated on die rolls. He also had a very consistent tendency to "just happen to" forget the disadvantages his characters had as well as how spells, magic items, etc worked. I and my co-dm distributed magic items with making sure that all members in the party could have something to use, but every time something was found, he wound up with it. In our 3.5E game the co-dm and I calculated magic item values and he had MORE than the rest of the entire party COMBINED. The players would just allow him to absorb all the items given out but then expected the DM's to do something about it. We (the DM's) even went so far as to post emails to all the players lists of items all the characters had and how much total value each character had. I hated doing this because it absolutely destroys all verisimilitude, but that's what we did. Though I no longer play they are still gaming and STILL do this as a standard practice after five years! The other DM and I talked to him and he begrudgingly allowed us to reduce the power of an insanely unbalanced item that the other DM had created but he still had more value in magic items than any other party member by far. Between cheating and hoarding magic items he could destroy any creature in one round that would wipe the floor with the rest of the party. He made it impossible to create encounters that would challenge the entire party without risking a TPK, with the possible exception of his character. We couldn't kick him out of the game because we are all old friends from college and even high school back in the early 80's. We only get together to game as friends and don't take the game too seriously, but his determination to absolutely dominate the game completely destroyed the fun of it for me. I had other reasons for quitting that were more important than this, but it was a significant factor in my decision. I would love to be able to still get together with them to have a laugh, but not so much for the gaming. Gaming with them as a player it would still irk me when he was obviously cheating. But I couldn't tolerate it DMing. [/QUOTE]
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