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Having some trouble with a PC & Deepwarden PrC - SOLVED (and in record time too!!)
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<blockquote data-quote="Sidekick" data-source="post: 3257789" data-attributes="member: 13946"><p>[</p><p>Glaring oversights and editorial failings? In a D&D book?… I’d be surprised if they even ‘thought’ about the max dex bonus to AC to be perfectly frank.</p><p></p><p>No offence Iku Rex, but if I only took RAW in every situation then IMHO I’d be a cr@p DM. The rules aren’t perfect, never will be – just like the law. So as DM it’s up to me to interpret them and see what’s best for my group’s campaign.</p><p></p><p>Its not like I’m stopping him from being a heavily armoured Dwarven warrior – but the DeepWarden isn’t about being a full-plated dwarven tank – that’s the Dwarven defender. This is about being a tough as nails, b@llsy sonofuab1tch who goes out and takes the fight to the enemy away from the ancestral halls. For a Dwarf who won’t return to the Mror until he can reclaim his families birthright that makes a lot of sense.</p><p></p><p>And the character can very much do that with this minor restriction. We're talking about a net of +4 to AC at all times... that's pretty good if you ask me.</p><p></p><p>Ultimately I know that if I don’t cap the con bonus he WILL abuse it, not use it but abuse it. I’m not willing to have that happen full stop.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Perhaps an AC of 26 is nothing in one you’re your games, and indeed many games. However my players aren’t interested in powergaming, eeking the most out of AC/Damage or whatever EXCEPT this player. </p><p></p><p>If I let the ability in RAW then I’m going to be faced with either a) not ever challenging that character or b) killing other characters because their players aren’t powergamed up.</p><p></p><p>In the interest of party harmony/balance, while keeping him the most powerful melee combatant (which he should be) I’m going to institute the armour's Dex bonus to AC.</p><p></p><p></p><p>If the player kicks up a fuss I’ll give them the option of taking this path instead. Considering we’re playing RHoD and the campaign will probably be finishing at 10th level I have a feeling I know which he’ll choose…</p><p></p><p>Iku - I honestly hope I haven’t offended you with any of my replies, if I have it wasn’t my intent. </p><p></p><p>Thank you for replying to the thread & I have taken your opinion / stance into account. But for my game I’ll be using the Max Dex bonus restriction for my armour.</p><p></p><p>It’s the best for my group and our continued enjoyment. Ultimately that’s my main concern, RAW, ‘balance’ etc all come in secondary to that…</p><p></p><p></p><p>Zeb – the player hasn’t taken the PrC yet – he’s looking at it for next level and has lent me Races of Stone to see if I’ll allow it (all the Races books ex RoEberron aren’t a part of the ‘allowed’ book list, thus require my say-so).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sidekick, post: 3257789, member: 13946"] [ Glaring oversights and editorial failings? In a D&D book?… I’d be surprised if they even ‘thought’ about the max dex bonus to AC to be perfectly frank. No offence Iku Rex, but if I only took RAW in every situation then IMHO I’d be a cr@p DM. The rules aren’t perfect, never will be – just like the law. So as DM it’s up to me to interpret them and see what’s best for my group’s campaign. Its not like I’m stopping him from being a heavily armoured Dwarven warrior – but the DeepWarden isn’t about being a full-plated dwarven tank – that’s the Dwarven defender. This is about being a tough as nails, b@llsy sonofuab1tch who goes out and takes the fight to the enemy away from the ancestral halls. For a Dwarf who won’t return to the Mror until he can reclaim his families birthright that makes a lot of sense. And the character can very much do that with this minor restriction. We're talking about a net of +4 to AC at all times... that's pretty good if you ask me. Ultimately I know that if I don’t cap the con bonus he WILL abuse it, not use it but abuse it. I’m not willing to have that happen full stop. Perhaps an AC of 26 is nothing in one you’re your games, and indeed many games. However my players aren’t interested in powergaming, eeking the most out of AC/Damage or whatever EXCEPT this player. If I let the ability in RAW then I’m going to be faced with either a) not ever challenging that character or b) killing other characters because their players aren’t powergamed up. In the interest of party harmony/balance, while keeping him the most powerful melee combatant (which he should be) I’m going to institute the armour's Dex bonus to AC. If the player kicks up a fuss I’ll give them the option of taking this path instead. Considering we’re playing RHoD and the campaign will probably be finishing at 10th level I have a feeling I know which he’ll choose… Iku - I honestly hope I haven’t offended you with any of my replies, if I have it wasn’t my intent. Thank you for replying to the thread & I have taken your opinion / stance into account. But for my game I’ll be using the Max Dex bonus restriction for my armour. It’s the best for my group and our continued enjoyment. Ultimately that’s my main concern, RAW, ‘balance’ etc all come in secondary to that… Zeb – the player hasn’t taken the PrC yet – he’s looking at it for next level and has lent me Races of Stone to see if I’ll allow it (all the Races books ex RoEberron aren’t a part of the ‘allowed’ book list, thus require my say-so). [/QUOTE]
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