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<blockquote data-quote="SlyFlourish" data-source="post: 4551208" data-attributes="member: 54840">So I have a couple of gaming groups I've run 4e games for. Both groups were around level 7 to level 8. I'm a big fan of the BBEG solo mob and have used them in both.I'm finding difficulty in truly threatening the players, however. It seems particularly easy to lock up a solo mob by hitting it with various full-round status effects that tie up its ability to do all of the funky moves it can do. Most solo mobs, on paper, still do not have enough actions in a round to make up for a party's full round of actions including action points.When I've faced a party of level 8s with a level 8 solo mob, they walk right over it. Even solo mobs a couple of levels higher don't seem like much of a challenge. I think it mostly comes down to the amount of damage dished out. Dragon breath hardly knocks off a surge's worth of hitpoints.What ways have you found of really challenging a party with a solo creature?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="SlyFlourish, post: 4551208, member: 54840"] So I have a couple of gaming groups I've run 4e games for. Both groups were around level 7 to level 8. I'm a big fan of the BBEG solo mob and have used them in both. I'm finding difficulty in truly threatening the players, however. It seems particularly easy to lock up a solo mob by hitting it with various full-round status effects that tie up its ability to do all of the funky moves it can do. Most solo mobs, on paper, still do not have enough actions in a round to make up for a party's full round of actions including action points. When I've faced a party of level 8s with a level 8 solo mob, they walk right over it. Even solo mobs a couple of levels higher don't seem like much of a challenge. I think it mostly comes down to the amount of damage dished out. Dragon breath hardly knocks off a surge's worth of hitpoints. What ways have you found of really challenging a party with a solo creature? [/QUOTE]

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