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<blockquote data-quote="Redwizard007" data-source="post: 9004756" data-attributes="member: 7024098"><p>When I see a difference at the table, it is usually a combination of low stats AND low optimization by one player, exacerbated by high stats AND high optimization by a different player. </p><p></p><p>The first player laments their low damage output while playing a gnome bard with stats ranging from 12-16 and the Dual Wielder feat and refusing to use control spells, while the vHuman ranger is wrecking encounters with stats from 8-20 and Sharpshooter.</p><p></p><p>This isn't exclusively a stat issue. Obviously, optimization choices, play styles, and expectations play a big role here, but if both of those PCs were hitting on rolls of 12 instead of 10 and 13, there would be a better sense of parity.</p><p></p><p>The larger issue, for me, that crops up are saving throws. A few bad stat rolls can really gimp key saving throws. We all know the tanks are typically weak to Wis or Int saves, but when you have an ability score of 6 where else are you going to put it? Same with casters and Strength. This just isn't an issue with stat arrays, and isn't much of one with point buy unless players are seriously min-maxing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Redwizard007, post: 9004756, member: 7024098"] When I see a difference at the table, it is usually a combination of low stats AND low optimization by one player, exacerbated by high stats AND high optimization by a different player. The first player laments their low damage output while playing a gnome bard with stats ranging from 12-16 and the Dual Wielder feat and refusing to use control spells, while the vHuman ranger is wrecking encounters with stats from 8-20 and Sharpshooter. This isn't exclusively a stat issue. Obviously, optimization choices, play styles, and expectations play a big role here, but if both of those PCs were hitting on rolls of 12 instead of 10 and 13, there would be a better sense of parity. The larger issue, for me, that crops up are saving throws. A few bad stat rolls can really gimp key saving throws. We all know the tanks are typically weak to Wis or Int saves, but when you have an ability score of 6 where else are you going to put it? Same with casters and Strength. This just isn't an issue with stat arrays, and isn't much of one with point buy unless players are seriously min-maxing. [/QUOTE]
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