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<blockquote data-quote="Tonguez" data-source="post: 2458529" data-attributes="member: 1125"><p><strong>excellent stuff Turanil</strong> I was just thinking about what kind of contents would be required so you've taken care of that. Thank you.</p><p></p><p>I think a small section on Vaka (boat)-use, Navigation and the Stars is required since boat-use is essential in an island setting (and in Polynesia should replace the ride skill)</p><p></p><p>Also a section on types of tohunga (kahuna, tohu'a) since the word means 'one chosen' and refers to Experts of various fields (since all knowledge is divine in origin) eg a <em>tahu'a tarai vaka</em> is a boatbuilder</p><p></p><p>Also we need to have a discussion on 'Wealth' since Polynesia had a moneyless economy, based on 'ritual gift exchange' </p><p>*************************************************************</p><p><strong>Scope </strong> </p><p>We also need to decide on the scope of this project whether it will be concentrated on Hawaiian structures or broadened out to the whole of Polynesia or even 'Oceania'. Also are we create a single archipelego or different 'sets' based on real world archipelago's of Polynesia</p><p>I ask this for a couple of reasons. 1st in many ways the Monarchal system which developed in Hawaii (and Tonga) is not the norm for Polynesia (although it is derived from the Polynesia norm and reflects the same basic tenents - the stratified hierarchy) The norm for Polynesia is more an oligarchal system wherein the heirarchy is present but social mobility is possible. The oligarchal system did exist in Hawaii but was largely replaced by the monarchal system after the rise of Kamehameha </p><p></p><p>Anyway without writing a thesis the social formation adopted in various parts of polynesia are based on primogeniture (senior descent) with a caste-like division between Ari'i - Nobles (ra'atira)- Commoners- Slaves-Outcasts. However because of common descent Ari'i, nobles and commoners are related. </p><p>Diversity in this structure arises in response to environmental and demographic pressures thus:</p><p></p><p><strong>Low Population High Resources </strong> = <strong>Standard Chieftainship </strong> system where the Ari'i is essentially first amongst equals (ra'atira) and works alongside his people</p><p><strong>Low Population Low Resources</strong> = <strong>Family 'mobs' </strong> usually no 'physical' Ari'i (<em>in Tokelau the Tui-Tokelau (King) was a god not a person</em>)</p><p><strong>High Population High Resources</strong> = <strong>Monarchy</strong> the high population means Ari'i and commoners are often not related (due to population movements and conquest through war) (Hawaii, Tonga)</p><p><strong>High Population Low Resources</strong> = <strong>Warlords</strong> as occured in Rapanui (Easter Island) and Marquesas (due to its isolated narrow valleys)</p><p></p><p>Anyway lots of stuff to consider</p><p>***************************************************************</p><p></p><p><strong>Turanil </strong> I'm looking through you Celtic Druids pdf now and it is good, I'm looking forward to this endeavour.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tonguez, post: 2458529, member: 1125"] [B]excellent stuff Turanil[/B] I was just thinking about what kind of contents would be required so you've taken care of that. Thank you. I think a small section on Vaka (boat)-use, Navigation and the Stars is required since boat-use is essential in an island setting (and in Polynesia should replace the ride skill) Also a section on types of tohunga (kahuna, tohu'a) since the word means 'one chosen' and refers to Experts of various fields (since all knowledge is divine in origin) eg a [I]tahu'a tarai vaka[/I] is a boatbuilder Also we need to have a discussion on 'Wealth' since Polynesia had a moneyless economy, based on 'ritual gift exchange' ************************************************************* [B]Scope [/B] We also need to decide on the scope of this project whether it will be concentrated on Hawaiian structures or broadened out to the whole of Polynesia or even 'Oceania'. Also are we create a single archipelego or different 'sets' based on real world archipelago's of Polynesia I ask this for a couple of reasons. 1st in many ways the Monarchal system which developed in Hawaii (and Tonga) is not the norm for Polynesia (although it is derived from the Polynesia norm and reflects the same basic tenents - the stratified hierarchy) The norm for Polynesia is more an oligarchal system wherein the heirarchy is present but social mobility is possible. The oligarchal system did exist in Hawaii but was largely replaced by the monarchal system after the rise of Kamehameha Anyway without writing a thesis the social formation adopted in various parts of polynesia are based on primogeniture (senior descent) with a caste-like division between Ari'i - Nobles (ra'atira)- Commoners- Slaves-Outcasts. However because of common descent Ari'i, nobles and commoners are related. Diversity in this structure arises in response to environmental and demographic pressures thus: [B]Low Population High Resources [/B] = [B]Standard Chieftainship [/B] system where the Ari'i is essentially first amongst equals (ra'atira) and works alongside his people [B]Low Population Low Resources[/B] = [B]Family 'mobs' [/B] usually no 'physical' Ari'i ([I]in Tokelau the Tui-Tokelau (King) was a god not a person[/I]) [B]High Population High Resources[/B] = [B]Monarchy[/B] the high population means Ari'i and commoners are often not related (due to population movements and conquest through war) (Hawaii, Tonga) [B]High Population Low Resources[/B] = [B]Warlords[/B] as occured in Rapanui (Easter Island) and Marquesas (due to its isolated narrow valleys) Anyway lots of stuff to consider *************************************************************** [B]Turanil [/B] I'm looking through you Celtic Druids pdf now and it is good, I'm looking forward to this endeavour. [/QUOTE]
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