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<blockquote data-quote="Knight Otu" data-source="post: 3195797" data-attributes="member: 192"><p>It might be, depending on the class, and I'd consider that a nice "target number" for my own designs. For your specific examples, the Soulknife can somewhat benefit from the already-existing combat feats, and vaguely from the "newly"-introduced psionic feats, but not to a particularly good effect either way. Also, the class is generally considered underpowered. So, yes, in that case, the Soulknife should have gotten more attention, rather than being treated as a red-haired stepchild. But the Psion, Wilder, and Psychic Warrior introduced in the book do get the full attention and the big range of options. Obviously not as much as the core classes received in the meantime, but well enough to be considered to have "good support."</p><p></p><p>Also, for many classes, "one page of feats" would be inadequate. I realize your point is mostly aimed at classes from the Complete books, which usually don't need quite as much information or supplemental material, but even there, spellcasting classes tend to need new spells to bring across the flavor (Hexblade), or occasionally new mechanics (Warlock). Balancing the needs for each new class isn't easy, and sometimes the necessary inspiration hits you quite in time for the book. And then there's the dilemma of book size (about which other threads have talked at length). Sometimes you have to cut a Wow or a Cool to fit in a Necessary.</p><p></p><p>Just for the record, I'm sure there is some "if the class is popular, we can expand on it later" thinking, but likely more to the extent that they say "don't worry too much if you can't think of a Wow effect", rather than "save that for Complete Divine III/Faerie Magic/Tome of Stealth, if the class is popular enough, we can use that as a selling point." I'm sure that if the designers have a cool idea, that they want to show it off as soon as possible.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Knight Otu, post: 3195797, member: 192"] It might be, depending on the class, and I'd consider that a nice "target number" for my own designs. For your specific examples, the Soulknife can somewhat benefit from the already-existing combat feats, and vaguely from the "newly"-introduced psionic feats, but not to a particularly good effect either way. Also, the class is generally considered underpowered. So, yes, in that case, the Soulknife should have gotten more attention, rather than being treated as a red-haired stepchild. But the Psion, Wilder, and Psychic Warrior introduced in the book do get the full attention and the big range of options. Obviously not as much as the core classes received in the meantime, but well enough to be considered to have "good support." Also, for many classes, "one page of feats" would be inadequate. I realize your point is mostly aimed at classes from the Complete books, which usually don't need quite as much information or supplemental material, but even there, spellcasting classes tend to need new spells to bring across the flavor (Hexblade), or occasionally new mechanics (Warlock). Balancing the needs for each new class isn't easy, and sometimes the necessary inspiration hits you quite in time for the book. And then there's the dilemma of book size (about which other threads have talked at length). Sometimes you have to cut a Wow or a Cool to fit in a Necessary. Just for the record, I'm sure there is some "if the class is popular, we can expand on it later" thinking, but likely more to the extent that they say "don't worry too much if you can't think of a Wow effect", rather than "save that for Complete Divine III/Faerie Magic/Tome of Stealth, if the class is popular enough, we can use that as a selling point." I'm sure that if the designers have a cool idea, that they want to show it off as soon as possible. [/QUOTE]
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