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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9530252" data-attributes="member: 7030563">Ok put &quot;type&quot; after every line in my post above.The normal damage type for a Dragontooth Dagger is Piercing and acid.The default damage for a Dragontooth Dagger is 1d4 piercing + 1d6 acid.There is a distinction in the rules between conjuring a pact weapon and creating a bond with a magic weapon.&nbsp; When you do the latter you are not conjuring a &quot;default&quot; non-magic weapon, you are bonding with a specific magic weapon and the damage done by that specific magic weapon is the default damage for that specific magic weapon.Bonding with a Dragontooth Dagger is fundamentally different in the rules then conjuring a dagger.Moreover, if this is the tact you are taking what is the &quot;normal damage type&quot; of a Sunblade or a Staff of the Adder?Finally, what do you do about the magic bonus?&nbsp; If you are only focused on the &quot;default damage type&quot; of the base non-magic weapon template itself specifically, then magic damage is added, just like other dice are added.&nbsp; A Dagger +1 deals 1d4 &quot;default dagger&quot; damage, the extra 1 is bonus damage from the magic.&nbsp; So if I use pact of the blade to bond with a +1 dagger with my 20 charisma Warlock and change damage to psychic, that would mean I do 1d4 psychic + 6 piercing?&nbsp; That makes no sense, but it is what is required to accept your interpretation.If I can't change the 1d6 bonus acid damage on my Dragontooth Dagger, why can I change the 1 magic bonus on my +1 Dagger?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9530252, member: 7030563"] Ok put "type" after every line in my post above. The [I]normal damage type[/I] for a Dragontooth Dagger is Piercing and acid. The default damage for a Dragontooth Dagger is 1d4 piercing + 1d6 acid. There is a distinction in the rules between conjuring a pact weapon and creating a bond with a magic weapon. When you do the latter you are not conjuring a "default" non-magic weapon, you are bonding with a specific magic weapon and the damage done by that specific magic weapon is the default damage for that specific magic weapon. Bonding with a Dragontooth Dagger is fundamentally different in the rules then conjuring a dagger. Moreover, if this is the tact you are taking what is the "normal damage type" of a Sunblade or a Staff of the Adder? Finally, what do you do about the magic bonus? If you are only focused on the "default damage type" of the base non-magic weapon template itself specifically, then magic damage is added, just like other dice are added. A Dagger +1 deals 1d4 "default dagger" damage, the extra 1 is bonus damage from the magic. So if I use pact of the blade to bond with a +1 dagger with my 20 charisma Warlock and change damage to psychic, that would mean I do 1d4 psychic + 6 piercing? That makes no sense, but it is what is required to accept your interpretation. If I can't change the 1d6 bonus acid damage on my Dragontooth Dagger, why can I change the 1 magic bonus on my +1 Dagger? [/QUOTE]

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