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<blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 3293068" data-attributes="member: 5834"><p><strong>re</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is pretty irritating. The LotR movies were badly done in many areas and ruined quite a few characters. The only place where Peter Jackson really hit the nail on the head is with the special effects, but he did a poor job on most of the really key scenes in the film. Not only did they diverge from the text, but they also made no sense in the movie itself or lacked the emotional impact of the text.</p><p></p><p>I bought the extended edition of all three movies. I really enjoyed them when they first came out. But after multiple viewings, I became more and more dissatisfied with the final product until I gave them away. They just weren't well done and had glaring logic problems with plot and character beyond the differences between the book and movie. </p><p></p><p>I don't mind that people enjoy the movies. Just don't argue that they are better or equal to the books with all the problems that even a halfway intelligent viewer could find with the plot and character inconsistencies. I for one am happy that Peter Jackson is not doing <em>The Hobbit</em>, then I might have to watch another Tolkien work bastardized because a director with a poor sense of storytelling has a great eye for visual effects.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I very much doubt that ASoIaF will have the same problem as the LotR with the fans. Tolkien fans more than likely have a different basis for judging the books than Martin fans, at least the purists like myself. I very much like the morality in LotR as much as I like the story itself. The movies at times obfuscated the value systems of the cultures presented in the books, which was very troubling to me. I won't have that same type of investment in ASoIaF, because morality is relative to the situation or nonexistent.</p><p></p><p> My main concern is how will they handle the sometimes extreme material in ASoIaF. The pedofilia alone with Daenerys will offend modern sensibilities, even though in the time a 14 year old girl having relations was not uncommon. Also what happens to Bran will deeply offend most, as harming children is viewed poorly. It will be difficult for them to redeem Jamie as effectively as the book in a visual medium IMO. </p><p></p><p>Martin definitely has alot of stong themes involving children. I'm going to enjoy seeing how HBO handles this kind of material. It should be interesting. Can you imagine the graphic <em>Red Wedding</em> scene on the screen? You know they would show it. Just talking about it as they did in the book wouldn't capture the scene, though I guess they could do a flashback sequence. I'm looking forward to a ASoIaF being brought to the film medium. Should be interesting.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celtavian, post: 3293068, member: 5834"] [b]re[/b] This is pretty irritating. The LotR movies were badly done in many areas and ruined quite a few characters. The only place where Peter Jackson really hit the nail on the head is with the special effects, but he did a poor job on most of the really key scenes in the film. Not only did they diverge from the text, but they also made no sense in the movie itself or lacked the emotional impact of the text. I bought the extended edition of all three movies. I really enjoyed them when they first came out. But after multiple viewings, I became more and more dissatisfied with the final product until I gave them away. They just weren't well done and had glaring logic problems with plot and character beyond the differences between the book and movie. I don't mind that people enjoy the movies. Just don't argue that they are better or equal to the books with all the problems that even a halfway intelligent viewer could find with the plot and character inconsistencies. I for one am happy that Peter Jackson is not doing [i]The Hobbit[/i], then I might have to watch another Tolkien work bastardized because a director with a poor sense of storytelling has a great eye for visual effects. I very much doubt that ASoIaF will have the same problem as the LotR with the fans. Tolkien fans more than likely have a different basis for judging the books than Martin fans, at least the purists like myself. I very much like the morality in LotR as much as I like the story itself. The movies at times obfuscated the value systems of the cultures presented in the books, which was very troubling to me. I won't have that same type of investment in ASoIaF, because morality is relative to the situation or nonexistent. My main concern is how will they handle the sometimes extreme material in ASoIaF. The pedofilia alone with Daenerys will offend modern sensibilities, even though in the time a 14 year old girl having relations was not uncommon. Also what happens to Bran will deeply offend most, as harming children is viewed poorly. It will be difficult for them to redeem Jamie as effectively as the book in a visual medium IMO. Martin definitely has alot of stong themes involving children. I'm going to enjoy seeing how HBO handles this kind of material. It should be interesting. Can you imagine the graphic [i]Red Wedding[/i] scene on the screen? You know they would show it. Just talking about it as they did in the book wouldn't capture the scene, though I guess they could do a flashback sequence. I'm looking forward to a ASoIaF being brought to the film medium. Should be interesting. [/QUOTE]
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