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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Teflon Billy" data-source="post: 2710164" data-attributes="member: 264">And here I thought this had been handled<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Well, the aboveis a little closer, but it's still not quite there.I always catch hell for this, but here it is...Don't be nice to her.Literally.Do. Not. Be. Nice.Being Nice, Cordial etc etc. is going to get you slotted into the "Good Friend" position real quick, and brother, you do not want to be there. Let me quote what Xath posted a little earlier...[bq]...Most girls don't look to friends for relationships. There is some sort of mental barrier between "friends" and "more than friends." Because of the fluidity of high school relationships, most girls have a subconscious fear of losing the friendship, and thus tend to foster relationships with people they don't know as well...[/bq]That is golden advice right there.for reasons I don't and will never understand, if you want the girl (and by "want the girl" I mean want a romantic, physical relationship with the girl) then you need to be somewhat less than nice to her.I'm running short on time today, so I will just do a cut-and-paste of my own commentary from a previous thread on the subject of relationships. Noneof my fellings or advice have really changed...nor has their utility.Women talk a good game about liking "nice guys with a sense of humour" and suchlike. But in my experience (and that of most every guy I know; inlcuding my Grandfather, my English Prof, a Professional Wrestler, a "Hairstylist to the Stars" and a Deacon, to give you some notion of the range of folks I'm describing here) it was no accident that our culture developed the proverb Nice guys finish last.Because they categorically do.And yes, there will always be a girl who posts to a thread like this claiming that neither they, nor any girl they know,  likes jerks at all. While I am certain that's true in their case(s), it is not statistically signifigant enough to offset the fact that nice guys finish last is a truism in our culture..It just means that they and their friends are anomalies.I'm entirely spoken for at the moment (and happily so), but back in the day I had no shortage of women (I was a Serial Monogamist; one girl at a atime, but no intention of settling down).The women were there because I followed very simple advice. I have no idea why these rules work--they shouldn't-- but they do.1) Deflate the girl a little. Don't agree with everything she says. Show her up in front of her friends. If she has just announced that she liked American Idol, well, guess what you just decided is stupid.2) Spend Money. Not necessarily on her. This one blows me away. If you spend a lot fo money on a girl, you are a mark. But buy drinks for yourself, your friends and--occassionally-- her, and you are in.3) Don't take a lot of crap. Be ready to walk away from drama. This ones tough because you can easily get the the feeling that you are throwing away the relationship and that can make you cave. Don't. Stick to your guns and she will--inexpicably--be back.4) Side with her against other girls. Girls constantly snipe, gossip and generally dig at one another, even (and maybe expecially) their friends. Join in on her side. eg...   [bq] Her: "Molly is such a slut"    You: "Yeah well, that's not exactly news in my circles"    Her: "Really?"    You: "Oh yeah"[/bq]...this is also a good opportunity to engage in rule 1 (deflating her a little)    [bq]You: "I thought Molly was a friend of yours?"    Her: "well, she is"    You: *shrug* "I guess guys just treat their friends differently"[/bq]5) Play to your masculine personality strengths. What is pretty simple stuff for men is just beyond the pale for a large percentage of women. Work on "Not treating every situation as a full-on crisis" and "Not sweating the small stuff". Your ability to not worry about everything imaginable is both attractive and aggravating to most women. So don't be "Mr. Sensitive"...young women and their friends have enough "sensitivity" for an army. That tank is full. Bring something else to the table. Something she can't provide for herself.6) Be ready to fail. Most women you meet are not going to be all that into you (unless you already have a girl interested in you...then it will be a swarm), this is just the way of things.It is a lot easier for an average girl to get an above average guy than vice-versa. You need to pick your battles. Meet a lot of women, work on the ones who show an interest. Be ready and willing to walk away.That's about it.Good luck to you</blockquote>

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