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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5675310" data-attributes="member: 2011">I'm not aware of the moderate rest rule. On what page number and in which book can it be found?I do agree with this.This from the guy who wrote:You tell your players how many encounters they are going to have before they can take an extended rest ahead of time?You then went on to write that if they insisted on an extended rest, you would either leave the group or TPK them?You started this line of conversation saying how it was your way or the highway.That's wrong dude.There are 6 players at the table, not 1.The DM is not god, he is the crafter of the adventure and the referee. By not being impartial and forcing your players to do it your way, you are not being a referee.I do agree that as a general rule, players should not just use an extended rest to get back Dailies when they have a ton of healing surges left over, but that's not how this conversation started. It started with the premise of a tough encounter, the players deciding to leave and take an extended rest, and you deciding that them doing that was either over-eagerness or disrespect.Players don't ever have to try to find the ritual to redistribute healing surges. The DM should supply that ritual if HE has a problem with too many extended rests. But the players make the rest decisions for their PCs, not the DM (shy of the scenario not allowing rests).</blockquote>