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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Balesir" data-source="post: 6292168" data-attributes="member: 27160">No, if you want not to be a fan of 4E I have no objection whatsoever, BUT I am so sick of responding to the sort of hyperbolic and unfounded assertions about what 4E "must" work like that were crammed into that particular quoted block that I'm just not going to treat them seriously any more.Let me put it more plainly: the stuff you claim is true in that quoted text does not coincide with my experience of 4E at all. That means that, even if you have found yourself assuming those things when reading or playing 4E, the assumptions are neither necessary or universal.When I come onto a discussion site and see unfounded and biased claims of "fact" about a system I enjoy, I am only going to respond politely and gently so many times before I conclude that the repetition of those claims after it has been pointed out that they are false as a general case is not done out of ignorance, but out of spite.</blockquote>