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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Balesir" data-source="post: 6292603" data-attributes="member: 27160">I can only say that my experience, and the experience of the group (of seven) I DM for seems to indicate that this sterilisation, intrusion and lack of envisioning doesn't happen - or, at the very least, doesn't cause a problem. I think I understand the fear, vaguely, but all I can say is "come on in - the water's actually fine!"Curiously (or perhaps not), it's not the fantsy elements that really give trouble. Vancian casting can be rationalised with a simple "well, it's magic". As [MENTION=6696971]Manbearcat[/MENTION] attests to in his response, it's matters of skill or science. Some roleplayers have a very strange vision of how physics might be able to work, and Hollywood has done utterly vile things to peoples' imagination of medieval fighting and Western Martial Arts, it seems.My experience - and this seems top be getting more strongly supported with time - is that many folks have remarkably disparate ideas about how the world works. What is actually seen and heard we generally agree on - those are the "facts established by the rules" - but the why and how of them happening is subject to the most weird opinions, I find.As an example, some folk ascribe many happenings in the world to divine or spiritual agency, where I see them as the natural outcome of scientific processes (generally - I could go deeper than that but I don't generally think on that level). Once you get into psychology and the motivation of people or animals in events, things get totally crazy!So, to answer your question, all or most of it (reality), in one way or another.Oh, heavens, yes! Some of the "clever" moves with a sword and shield I hear described are just priceless! And so much fantasy art shows moves that would/should be just suicidal - no experienced warrior would even contemplate them, however "savage" or "berserk" they might be. Hyborean picts are technologically disadvantaged, not stupid...For the rest of your post - not much I can say except "I agree".</blockquote>

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