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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sir ThornCrest" data-source="post: 2038693" data-attributes="member: 27532">Here is how we seperate the light hits from "your bleeding a lot and in pain"All classes that gain +1 BaB per level (combatants/tough guys) take their con mod x level as there actuall body hit points. The d10/12 roll for hit pionts that are added are that players skill at making blows glance, rolling with the punch etc. example A 10th level fighter with a 18 con and 10d10 of hit pionts for lets say a total of 100 hit pionts. Would have 40 pionts from his con bonus and 60 from his rolls. #1) no matter what level a blow that causes half your existing hit pionts will force pc to make fort save or lose next action. We dont do the 50 hit points in 1 blow = you might die. Because that rule does not take into account the total hit pionts of the player. If he has 200 hit pionts or 51.....there is a big difference.#2) This sample 10th level fighter would have 40 pionts from con bonus, this 40 represents his tough guy hit pionts. the other 60 from the rolls is his skill to move out of the way. When he takes a total of 61 pionts he is now noticable jacked up, and he aint dodging any more he is obviously injured and getting more injured per blow. The blows he was moving out of the way of he is now getting hit solidly by.  All other classes play by normal D&D rules, they start getting jacked up the first hit against them.Thorncrest</blockquote>