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<blockquote data-quote="keterys" data-source="post: 5027454" data-attributes="member: 43019"><p>Why do these parts matter? All sorts of move actions provoke for movement. On attacks, a Disruptive Strike is an interrupt that provokes, a Snap Shot is a minor that provokes, Bloody Path is a move that _must_ provoke.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>You did something - you said a prayer that healed someone, or shouted at someone to snap out of it. Is that so different from saying a prayer to scorch your enemy?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>From your statement it seemed you were saying that it seemed obvious that they were not intended to provoke. If you're instead saying that it's almost the opposite of that and it's unknown whether they realized those would provoke. Well, sure, we don't know that, and I'm on board with you there. Another good example would probably be the central eye ray of a beholder which does not contain the 'this does not provoke' like the other eye rays. Every DM I've seen run one has been convinced that it can use the central eye without provoking...</p><p></p><p>But here's the interesting part. It _is_ a ranged attack in many cases. Though it does satisfy the 'minor action' tag you asked about earlier.</p><p></p><p>At which point arguing intent gets awfully murky. I do think it's easy to argue intent on Nimble Strike not provoking when you use it to shift back one and fire. But Knight's Move, Bastion of Health, and Shake It Off can continue to provoke, and I'm okay with that. Beholder central eyes too, if I'm running an official LFR game. Cause, whatever, really. Doesn't gain me enough to change things. If I design my own beholder? Probably address that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="keterys, post: 5027454, member: 43019"] Why do these parts matter? All sorts of move actions provoke for movement. On attacks, a Disruptive Strike is an interrupt that provokes, a Snap Shot is a minor that provokes, Bloody Path is a move that _must_ provoke. You did something - you said a prayer that healed someone, or shouted at someone to snap out of it. Is that so different from saying a prayer to scorch your enemy? From your statement it seemed you were saying that it seemed obvious that they were not intended to provoke. If you're instead saying that it's almost the opposite of that and it's unknown whether they realized those would provoke. Well, sure, we don't know that, and I'm on board with you there. Another good example would probably be the central eye ray of a beholder which does not contain the 'this does not provoke' like the other eye rays. Every DM I've seen run one has been convinced that it can use the central eye without provoking... But here's the interesting part. It _is_ a ranged attack in many cases. Though it does satisfy the 'minor action' tag you asked about earlier. At which point arguing intent gets awfully murky. I do think it's easy to argue intent on Nimble Strike not provoking when you use it to shift back one and fire. But Knight's Move, Bastion of Health, and Shake It Off can continue to provoke, and I'm okay with that. Beholder central eyes too, if I'm running an official LFR game. Cause, whatever, really. Doesn't gain me enough to change things. If I design my own beholder? Probably address that. [/QUOTE]
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