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<blockquote data-quote="CleverNickName" data-source="post: 8727219" data-attributes="member: 50987">&quot;Unfair&quot; might be a bit of a bold statement; the players use it just about as frequently as their opponents do.&nbsp; And what's good for the goose is good for the gander, amirite?It's a critical druid spell for our group--like warlocks and Eldritch Blast, I've never seen a druid not prepare the Heat Metal spell.&nbsp; They relish every chance they can find (or invent!) to use this spell in combat, and will argue with me over and again about all of the points that you made in your original post.&quot;Nope!&nbsp; You don't get to make a save throw, Mister DM!&nbsp; And there's no way he can take his armor off in time!&nbsp; Ha ha!&nbsp; And I don't even have to stay in range either!&quot;&nbsp; The players practically cackle with glee every time they fight an armored opponent.But I don't mind.&nbsp; If the druid is concentrating on that spell, chances are he isn't concentrating on other more useful (and possibly more annoying) spells like Moonbeam, Hold Person, Call Lightning, etc.&nbsp; And not only that, the target now has a very urgent incentive to focus its complete and undivided attention upon the immediate removal of the druid's soul from his body.&nbsp; So, <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷‍♂️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" title="Man shrugging&nbsp; &nbsp; :man_shrugging:" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" />&nbsp; it all balances out.&quot;I cast Heat Metal!&quot;Sure thing, buddy.&nbsp; Paint that 'kick me' sign on your back.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CleverNickName, post: 8727219, member: 50987"] "Unfair" might be a bit of a bold statement; the players use it just about as frequently as their opponents do. And what's good for the goose is good for the gander, amirite? It's a critical druid spell for our group--like warlocks and Eldritch Blast, I've never seen a druid [I]not [/I]prepare the Heat Metal spell. They relish every chance they can find (or invent!) to use this spell in combat, and will argue with me over and again about all of the points that you made in your original post. "Nope! You don't get to make a save throw, Mister DM! And there's [I]no way [/I]he can take his armor off in time! Ha ha! And I don't even have to stay in range either!" The players practically cackle with glee every time they fight an armored opponent. But I don't mind. If the druid is concentrating on that spell, chances are he isn't concentrating on other more useful (and possibly more annoying) spells like Moonbeam, Hold Person, Call Lightning, etc. And not only that, the target now has a very urgent incentive to focus its complete and undivided attention upon the immediate removal of the druid's soul from his body. So, 🤷‍♂️ it all balances out. "I cast Heat Metal!" Sure thing, buddy. Paint that 'kick me' sign on your back. [/QUOTE]

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