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Heat Metal Spell. Unfair to Heavy Armor Wearers?
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<blockquote data-quote="jgsugden" data-source="post: 8727602" data-attributes="member: 2629"><p>When I see threads like this one I wonder if people actually have play experience with the spell in 5E, or if they're assuming what it would be like in play because a lot of the arguments I see in threads like this do not match my experiences. </p><p></p><p>If your caster runs away to make sure they can continue to deal the damage, they're out of the fight. You're diminishing that enemy force by 1 spellcaster. If they stay close enough to be effective, they're often caught up and their concetration can be broken.</p><p></p><p>Don't get me wrong. There are ways this can be devastating. I had an NPC druid betray a PC and cast a 5th level version (5d8) on a PC when they were out out on their own. The PC fighter was 10th level and had ~90 hps. On the same turn they cast it, the Moon Druid turned into a giant badger and dug 10 feet down into the ground (leaving no tunnel). The fighter was taking 22 damage per turn, roughly, and had no way to get out of the armor quickly, and no way to get at the druid. They had to be inventive to get back to allies fast (and to draw their allies to them) while trying to stay on their feet through healing and RP based ways to cool the armor off (I allowed diving into water to give them some small reduction in the damage). </p><p></p><p>However, this was not something we'd see in combat. This was a well executed use of the spell as an assassination technique. In combat, that druid either would have been out of the fight (and as they could cast 5th level spells, tthey'd have been a significant percentage of the firepower in the battle), or they'd have been targets for breaking concentration.</p><p></p><p>If you're really worried about this type of thing, I do have a common magic item in my campaigns that PCs often buy: Doff Tokens. They're a version of Quaal's Feather Tokens that clips onto armor and allows the wearer to use up the token to doff the armor as a bonus action.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jgsugden, post: 8727602, member: 2629"] When I see threads like this one I wonder if people actually have play experience with the spell in 5E, or if they're assuming what it would be like in play because a lot of the arguments I see in threads like this do not match my experiences. If your caster runs away to make sure they can continue to deal the damage, they're out of the fight. You're diminishing that enemy force by 1 spellcaster. If they stay close enough to be effective, they're often caught up and their concetration can be broken. Don't get me wrong. There are ways this can be devastating. I had an NPC druid betray a PC and cast a 5th level version (5d8) on a PC when they were out out on their own. The PC fighter was 10th level and had ~90 hps. On the same turn they cast it, the Moon Druid turned into a giant badger and dug 10 feet down into the ground (leaving no tunnel). The fighter was taking 22 damage per turn, roughly, and had no way to get out of the armor quickly, and no way to get at the druid. They had to be inventive to get back to allies fast (and to draw their allies to them) while trying to stay on their feet through healing and RP based ways to cool the armor off (I allowed diving into water to give them some small reduction in the damage). However, this was not something we'd see in combat. This was a well executed use of the spell as an assassination technique. In combat, that druid either would have been out of the fight (and as they could cast 5th level spells, tthey'd have been a significant percentage of the firepower in the battle), or they'd have been targets for breaking concentration. If you're really worried about this type of thing, I do have a common magic item in my campaigns that PCs often buy: Doff Tokens. They're a version of Quaal's Feather Tokens that clips onto armor and allows the wearer to use up the token to doff the armor as a bonus action. [/QUOTE]
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