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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Someone" data-source="post: 1745447" data-attributes="member: 5656">Actually, Thanee, yes, you can compare them since both, (wizard/sorcerer) and psion are spending the same resources in them. In terms of cost/benefit, spells win hands down. In terms of absolute power, powers have a big advantage. To answer the OP, I can offer my bit of playtesting. I used a 8th kineticist (a CR 9 creature) against my party of 4 12th level characters.He manifested a couple of preparatory powers (Vigor and Inertial armor) and before the batte started, he used Ectoplasmic Wall a couple times. In the battle, he manifested Dispel psionics twice, Energy Ball (empowered) and Energy Ray. He ended very low on power pointsCompared with an hipotetical sorcerer of that level, he was much more versatile -a lot more powers know, but I remember that I had to take Expanded Knowledge to take one power needed to the bad guy´s strategy. Psion wins, since he has bonus feats; even "needing" to take expanded knowledge.He knew beforehand the party´s strenghts, so he decided to use Electricity on the energy powers, instead of fire or cold (they have a lot of fire resistance, and the paladin/templar and fighter/cleric have stupidly high Fort saves and Mettle) Psion wins big time.He had Overchannel, so he could manifest an Empowered energy ball, doing big damage. Really, Overchannel is a very powerful feat. Psion wins, but spending a lot of resources (the equivalent of a 5 1/2 spell) A sorcerer would have done "only" 8d6 of damage, but spending a 3rd level slot. But he had not Psionic Meditation. Later, he shot an energy ray at the paladin, but he spent earlier the focus. A sorcerer would have been able to a) shoot a regular Scorching Ray, doing the same damage but spending only a 2nd level slot, or shoot an Empowered Scorching ray. Even if he had psionic meditation, his Concentration skill was +13 or so; failing DC 20 is a real possibility. Sorcerer wins.He didn´t fight alone. A sorcerer would have likely used a defensive spell, like Displacement, on his buddies. The psion only had Vigor, and even if he had taken Greater concealing amorpha, those are only personal powers. Sorcerer wins. He ended VERY low on PPs, in only one encounter. A sorcerer would have spent only a fraction of his resources. Sorcerer wins.That´s what I can remember now. Apparently, they win the same number of times, but the Psion "wins" are arguably better.</blockquote>

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