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Heavy Artillery: Psion vs. Wizard
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<blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 1746842" data-attributes="member: 172"><p>I would hope a sorcerer player would know better than to make every spell at each level one that will quickly outgrow its usefulness.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>How many times to I have to spell this out to you. THEY PAY MORE. You keep asserting that paying out the nose for their powers is not total compensation, but have done nothing to demonstrate that.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Um, we are talking about XPH here, which nerfs psion skill point advantages. You know that, right?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So do wizards. I won't dispute that sorcerers are underpowered, but that's the sorcerer being underpowered unless you can demonstrate that they are as effective as wizards.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If getting spells sooner than the arcane wizard does is a shock to you, don't take a peek at the Cleric or Druid spell list.</p><p></p><p>Those powers that the psions do get earlier are worth noting are on the specialty discipline lists. Which is nice, but a psion can normally only take advantage of one of those lists and don't get the advantages that a specialist wizards do.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But they have to choose between that <em>or</em> enhancing their powers, which sorcerers get for free. If they do so, they can't can't quicken and enhance them. Metapsionics is a much bigger detriment to psions than arcane caster.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>1) That they don't get some of those things and</p><p>2) That they have to pay a premium for scaline their powers. (Are you just trying to get me to repeat myself? Or amplify the obvious?)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Psion, post: 1746842, member: 172"] I would hope a sorcerer player would know better than to make every spell at each level one that will quickly outgrow its usefulness. How many times to I have to spell this out to you. THEY PAY MORE. You keep asserting that paying out the nose for their powers is not total compensation, but have done nothing to demonstrate that. Um, we are talking about XPH here, which nerfs psion skill point advantages. You know that, right? So do wizards. I won't dispute that sorcerers are underpowered, but that's the sorcerer being underpowered unless you can demonstrate that they are as effective as wizards. If getting spells sooner than the arcane wizard does is a shock to you, don't take a peek at the Cleric or Druid spell list. Those powers that the psions do get earlier are worth noting are on the specialty discipline lists. Which is nice, but a psion can normally only take advantage of one of those lists and don't get the advantages that a specialist wizards do. But they have to choose between that [i]or[/i] enhancing their powers, which sorcerers get for free. If they do so, they can't can't quicken and enhance them. Metapsionics is a much bigger detriment to psions than arcane caster. 1) That they don't get some of those things and 2) That they have to pay a premium for scaline their powers. (Are you just trying to get me to repeat myself? Or amplify the obvious?) [/QUOTE]
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