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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 1747238" data-attributes="member: 478">Too lazy to pick up my dictionary... what is "obtuse"? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Nah, but I admit, it probably got a bit mixed up what I meant where... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />To rehash... psion versus sorcerer gains pretty much all that stuff listed, no need to repeat. Psion versus wizard gains SPONTANEOUS manifestation and some other gimmicks (armor, grapple, silence advantages).I still think spontaneous casting is not something to simply ignore...Can you actually say that with a straight face!?If so, you should probably go playing poker in Las Vegas for a living! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />Sorry for the confusion then... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />At a considerable (opportunity) cost.Yeah, but those low level spells, while certainly nice, surely are no match for the higher level ones.Then look at my post above please, where I tried to underline my "assumption" with actual numbers.No, I want (and have) limited psions to non-existance in my game. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />As long as they do not put out a decently playtested and balanced book, this will remain that way (and is in full agreement with the other players).Heh. Actually, I totally agree with you, that it is the compensation for this, but everyone else so far told me it was not.Yes, focus is a limit for sure. Of course, this is compensated by having feats like Psionic Penetration be twice as good as Spell Penetration and Psionic Endowment, let's say three to four times as good as Spell Focus, also (as mentioned above) most good metamagic feats are already subsumed in the psionic system and augmentation system without the need to learn a feat in the first place. And they included ways to circumvent the real cost of focus (using a meaningful action to regain it) with Psionic Meditation and Hustle. So it's really not that bad for the poor psion (the class, not you <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />).ByeThanee</blockquote>

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