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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 1747697" data-attributes="member: 172">Do you seriously beleive this?Try this thought experiment.Tell your players you are introducing a new class. The stealth mage.They have the sorcerer/wizard spell list, EXCEPT all of their spells are silenced and stilled, and the spells are two levels higher.See how many players take it. See how it gets trounced in an environment designed for its level.In short, those feats are not worth that much. Those feats are provided as options. They do not have the potency to replace a spell level.Further, as I already pointed out earlier, psions do not receive the full benefits of those feats.I'll state, IME, that is wrong. Last wizard I played cast out of his spells three consecutive times in a dungeon, forcing a party retreat each time.This ignores the open slot rule, as well as cheap scrolls as backups at low levels.It most certainly does not. The much more limited spell selection means that you often don't know the right spell or power at all. Saving the points and not solving the problem at all is not a boon.So, you implicitly and absolutely trust the R&D team's assessment on the value of still and silent spell feats, but not this one, eh? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>