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<blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 1748724" data-attributes="member: 478">Well, I havn't actually seen many arguments yet. The example, which I refered to as &quot;silly&quot; is one thing, but that is mostly since you have repeatedly ignored the argument I made as to why I think this example has no meaning for the comparison.&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;And I can say it again, you cannot give the sorcerer free scaling in a comparison and then compare to the psion, who has been removed of all the free stuff they get. This is a comparison on different levels, taking into account the biggest advantage of one side and basically no advantage of the other side.&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; What did I ignore then?&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;That I neglected the cost of augmentation in my comparison, as you mentioned? Has been answered. I have included the maximum possible cost. Worst case for the psion.&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; What else?&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;You repeatedly said, I'd neglect &quot;something&quot; there, but what this &quot;something&quot; is, you fail to name (or I have somehow actually missed it, which is certainly also a possibility <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/nervous.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":heh:" title="Nervous Laugh&nbsp; &nbsp; :heh:" data-shortname=":heh:" /> ).&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; You accuse me of &quot;stacking the deck&quot;, but you don't say how.&nbsp; &nbsp; You mentioned &quot;factual analysis&quot; up there... can you give me some post numbers, where you put up that &quot;factual analysis&quot;?&nbsp;&nbsp;Your opinion is not a fact, as much as you might like it to be, likewise, my opinion is not a fact, of course, this goes both ways. But I have stated facts, where I base my opinion on. You just repeatedly mention the cost of augmentation to be worth pretty much everything psions get over sorcerers (which is a damn whole lot) with no facts (which I am aware of) to back this up.&nbsp; &nbsp;So, if you be so kind and go back and point me to the parts I have missed in your opinion, I'll gladly go back and re-consider them. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Bye&nbsp;&nbsp; Thanee</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Thanee, post: 1748724, member: 478"] Well, I havn't actually seen many arguments yet. The example, which I refered to as "silly" is one thing, but that is mostly since you have repeatedly ignored the argument I made as to why I think this example has no meaning for the comparison. And I can say it again, you cannot give the sorcerer free scaling in a comparison and then compare to the psion, who has been removed of all the free stuff they get. This is a comparison on different levels, taking into account the biggest advantage of one side and basically no advantage of the other side. What did I ignore then? That I neglected the cost of augmentation in my comparison, as you mentioned? Has been answered. I have included the maximum possible cost. Worst case for the psion. What else? You repeatedly said, I'd neglect "something" there, but what this "something" is, you fail to name (or I have somehow actually missed it, which is certainly also a possibility :heh: ). You accuse me of "stacking the deck", but you don't say how. You mentioned "factual analysis" up there... can you give me some post numbers, where you put up that "factual analysis"? Your opinion is not a fact, as much as you might like it to be, likewise, my opinion is not a fact, of course, this goes both ways. But I have stated facts, where I base my opinion on. You just repeatedly mention the cost of augmentation to be worth pretty much everything psions get over sorcerers (which is a damn whole lot) with no facts (which I am aware of) to back this up. So, if you be so kind and go back and point me to the parts I have missed in your opinion, I'll gladly go back and re-consider them. :) Bye Thanee [/QUOTE]

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