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<blockquote data-quote="DarkJester" data-source="post: 1749271" data-attributes="member: 3280">Psion vs. Wizard and Power ScalingBelow is a comparison based on effective output if all spells per day were used to fuel combat spells versus the power points it would take a psion to do equal damage.20th Level Wizard (26 Int)4/6/6/6/6/5/5/5/5/4First Level&nbsp; &nbsp; Magic Missile&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (5d4+5)&nbsp; &nbsp; 5*6 (per day) PPSecond Level&nbsp; &nbsp; Scorching Ray&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (12d6)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 12*6 PPThird Level&nbsp; &nbsp; Fireball&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (10d6)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 10*6 PPFourth Level&nbsp; &nbsp; Emp Scorching Ray&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (18d6)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 18*6 PPFifth Level&nbsp; &nbsp; Cone of Cold&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (15d6)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 15*5 PPSixth Level&nbsp; &nbsp; Chain Lightning&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (20d6)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 20*5 PPSeventh Level&nbsp; &nbsp; Delayed Blast Fireball&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (20d6)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 20*5 PPEighth Level&nbsp; &nbsp; Horrid Wilting&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (20d8)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ~26*5 PPNinth Level&nbsp; &nbsp; Meteor Swarm&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (24d6)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 24*4 PPTotal Equivalent Power Points =&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 751 Power PointsIf he were a specialist =&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 901 Power Points20th Level Psion (26 Int)423 Power Points============================= My thoughts:The psion will have greater flexibility in which power to use in what situation. He will be able to pick the right spell/ element for the job. The wizard can as well, but will be forced to take sub optimal damage dealers in some situations. The psion and wizards’ spell DC’s will equal, unless the psion uses +1 DC per PP spent powers. The psion also has the drawback of having to expend his psionic focus in order to use any feat relating to his spells (power penetration, focus, metapsionics). The psion is unable to use metamagic in conjunction with any other feat without the aid of a psicrystal and appropriate feats. The psion does not have to worry about being grappled/tied down/silenced. The psion has the benefit of being more exotic – the unknown is more dangerous in my experiences. The psion has much better feat options. The wizard can produce a greater damage output than the psion can by using half his spell slots for damaging spells. His utility spells can be reused with the aid of spells such as Mage’s Lubrication (The name escapes me at the moment). The wizard has access to almost everything a psion does (Excluding prohibited schools, any wizard can charm, dominate, make illusions, fireball, or summon monsters). The wizard has better product support and a much greater selection of spells if we choose to bring this discussion outside of the PHB, and PsiHB. The wizard has to go through the trouble of keeping track of his spellbook and spell components. IMO the Wizard comes out far ahead. I do not, however, believe the psion is weak. Its versatility and relative abundance of powers known make it very useful.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DarkJester, post: 1749271, member: 3280"] Psion vs. Wizard and Power Scaling Below is a comparison based on effective output if all spells per day were used to fuel combat spells versus the power points it would take a psion to do equal damage. 20th Level Wizard (26 Int) 4/6/6/6/6/5/5/5/5/4 First Level Magic Missile (5d4+5) 5*6 (per day) PP Second Level Scorching Ray (12d6) 12*6 PP Third Level Fireball (10d6) 10*6 PP Fourth Level Emp Scorching Ray (18d6) 18*6 PP Fifth Level Cone of Cold (15d6) 15*5 PP Sixth Level Chain Lightning (20d6) 20*5 PP Seventh Level Delayed Blast Fireball (20d6) 20*5 PP Eighth Level Horrid Wilting (20d8) ~26*5 PP Ninth Level Meteor Swarm (24d6) 24*4 PP Total Equivalent Power Points = 751 Power Points If he were a specialist = 901 Power Points 20th Level Psion (26 Int) 423 Power Points ============================= My thoughts: The psion will have greater flexibility in which power to use in what situation. He will be able to pick the right spell/ element for the job. The wizard can as well, but will be forced to take sub optimal damage dealers in some situations. The psion and wizards’ spell DC’s will equal, unless the psion uses +1 DC per PP spent powers. The psion also has the drawback of having to expend his psionic focus in order to use any feat relating to his spells (power penetration, focus, metapsionics). The psion is unable to use metamagic in conjunction with any other feat without the aid of a psicrystal and appropriate feats. The psion does not have to worry about being grappled/tied down/silenced. The psion has the benefit of being more exotic – the unknown is more dangerous in my experiences. The psion has much better feat options. The wizard can produce a greater damage output than the psion can by using half his spell slots for damaging spells. His utility spells can be reused with the aid of spells such as Mage’s Lubrication (The name escapes me at the moment). The wizard has access to almost everything a psion does (Excluding prohibited schools, any wizard can charm, dominate, make illusions, fireball, or summon monsters). The wizard has better product support and a much greater selection of spells if we choose to bring this discussion outside of the PHB, and PsiHB. The wizard has to go through the trouble of keeping track of his spellbook and spell components. IMO the Wizard comes out far ahead. I do not, however, believe the psion is weak. Its versatility and relative abundance of powers known make it very useful. [/QUOTE]

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