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Heavy Artillery: Psion vs. Wizard
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<blockquote data-quote="Sorren" data-source="post: 1751020" data-attributes="member: 20920"><p>I didn't ignore it at all. I don't see how you missed it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Just looking at the number of damage dice rolled, a sorcerer with Empower Spell will average a little more damage (8 points), than the psion. Consider the effects of energy choice and scaling DC, and that puts the psion a little ahead of the sorcerer. He is <em>slightly</em> better.</p><p></p><p>The added bonus to DCs are nice, but it's only going to matter a few times in a battle. In addition, my examples use fire as the energy type, which does more damage than the other elements (except frost). If he switches energy types, it means he may very well deal much less damage.</p><p></p><p>Thus, his advantages with increased DCs and energy conversion are probably just enough to make him slightly better than the sorcerer with Empower Spell. If he didn't have those advantages, the sorcerer would be <em>slightly</em>better. (8 points better to be exact)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That makes me question the tactics your party sorcerer uses. In our last session, we had a side quest where we entered some mines that had been taken over by bandits, thieves, and some yuanti. </p><p></p><p>Over the course of two encounters (about 8 rounds each) and several energy missles, mind thrusts, and astral constructs later, I was down to 7 power points. I had that many because I was being conservative. I spent about four rounds or so doing nothing more than cheering for my teammates.</p><p></p><p>No other character were standing still, I can assure you of that.</p><p></p><p>The highlight was when I smashed a bandit with a barrel full of flour with telekinesis and killed him. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>The other was a cool use of Control Object where I made a table some bandits were sitting at spring to life and attack them. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> </p><p></p><p>All in all, I would say I was about as effective as a sorcerer of my level. Maybe a little better. I contributed heavily to the encounters, but it wiped me out. A sorcerer could have easily gone through at least one or two more encounters. He wouldn't have been at peak performance of course, but he would have at least still been active.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sorren, post: 1751020, member: 20920"] I didn't ignore it at all. I don't see how you missed it. Just looking at the number of damage dice rolled, a sorcerer with Empower Spell will average a little more damage (8 points), than the psion. Consider the effects of energy choice and scaling DC, and that puts the psion a little ahead of the sorcerer. He is [i]slightly[/i] better. The added bonus to DCs are nice, but it's only going to matter a few times in a battle. In addition, my examples use fire as the energy type, which does more damage than the other elements (except frost). If he switches energy types, it means he may very well deal much less damage. Thus, his advantages with increased DCs and energy conversion are probably just enough to make him slightly better than the sorcerer with Empower Spell. If he didn't have those advantages, the sorcerer would be [i]slightly[/i]better. (8 points better to be exact) That makes me question the tactics your party sorcerer uses. In our last session, we had a side quest where we entered some mines that had been taken over by bandits, thieves, and some yuanti. Over the course of two encounters (about 8 rounds each) and several energy missles, mind thrusts, and astral constructs later, I was down to 7 power points. I had that many because I was being conservative. I spent about four rounds or so doing nothing more than cheering for my teammates. No other character were standing still, I can assure you of that. The highlight was when I smashed a bandit with a barrel full of flour with telekinesis and killed him. :) The other was a cool use of Control Object where I made a table some bandits were sitting at spring to life and attack them. :D All in all, I would say I was about as effective as a sorcerer of my level. Maybe a little better. I contributed heavily to the encounters, but it wiped me out. A sorcerer could have easily gone through at least one or two more encounters. He wouldn't have been at peak performance of course, but he would have at least still been active. [/QUOTE]
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