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Heavy Artillery: Psion vs. Wizard
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<blockquote data-quote="Dthamilaye" data-source="post: 1752203" data-attributes="member: 11890"><p>Uhh... hello.</p><p></p><p>Don't know if I get my head cut off right way for sticking it into this <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.</p><p></p><p>I have to admit that I skipped pages 4-12, don't have too much extra time at work. So my idea could have already surfaced before. If so, I'm sorry for repeating it.</p><p></p><p>I don't see the Psion as overpowered. They do have some things that (IMHO) are bit over the top, but (IMHO) do not affect the game play THAT much.</p><p>Mostly the no somatic, verbal or material components and the possibility to use any armour.</p><p></p><p>But:</p><p></p><p>Have you considered the PrCs at all? What happens when the Psion vs Sorcerer -debate is done with PrCs? After all, who plays bare sorcerer for 20 levels?</p><p>Archmage costs a lot to get into. 3 feats, One of them quite useless. However, EVERY sorcerer I have seen, has tried to get into Archmage. That goes for all wizard too btw. There the sorcerer gets the 'Any elemental damage at will', the super-uber ability "Arcane Fire' (Yes, this is one of the most powerful abilities I know for caster), and 3 other nice things. Add in any other 10 level PrC and sorcerer looks much better.</p><p></p><p>For Psion player, what PrCs there are (in the books, not in some web-enchantment or Dragon), that are of any use?</p><p></p><p>Maybe my opinion is biased, but I think Archmage is kind of a default PrC that every arcane caster strives to get. Psion has no such PrCs, as even 1 lost manifester level really cuts into his PPs and powers.</p><p></p><p>Of course, if the WotC makes Archmage/Hierophant -style PrC to Psion too, then this point of view becomes void.</p><p></p><p>Thank you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dthamilaye, post: 1752203, member: 11890"] Uhh... hello. Don't know if I get my head cut off right way for sticking it into this :). I have to admit that I skipped pages 4-12, don't have too much extra time at work. So my idea could have already surfaced before. If so, I'm sorry for repeating it. I don't see the Psion as overpowered. They do have some things that (IMHO) are bit over the top, but (IMHO) do not affect the game play THAT much. Mostly the no somatic, verbal or material components and the possibility to use any armour. But: Have you considered the PrCs at all? What happens when the Psion vs Sorcerer -debate is done with PrCs? After all, who plays bare sorcerer for 20 levels? Archmage costs a lot to get into. 3 feats, One of them quite useless. However, EVERY sorcerer I have seen, has tried to get into Archmage. That goes for all wizard too btw. There the sorcerer gets the 'Any elemental damage at will', the super-uber ability "Arcane Fire' (Yes, this is one of the most powerful abilities I know for caster), and 3 other nice things. Add in any other 10 level PrC and sorcerer looks much better. For Psion player, what PrCs there are (in the books, not in some web-enchantment or Dragon), that are of any use? Maybe my opinion is biased, but I think Archmage is kind of a default PrC that every arcane caster strives to get. Psion has no such PrCs, as even 1 lost manifester level really cuts into his PPs and powers. Of course, if the WotC makes Archmage/Hierophant -style PrC to Psion too, then this point of view becomes void. Thank you. [/QUOTE]
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