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<blockquote data-quote="Dayspire" data-source="post: 4286675" data-attributes="member: 35765">I'm beginning to understand why Wulf is getting frustrated with this thread.&nbsp; It's obvious that many people (not just you Entropi) do not read it in its entirety before posting.&nbsp; This tends to infuriate those of us who are paying close attention, looking for answers in the murky world of math.As to your point Entropi - what this whole thing about is the chart on page 42 that the DMG states is used for Skill Challenges.&nbsp; They are not 'variables'.&nbsp; The chart doesn't say &quot;N+5&quot; where N=a character's skill score.&nbsp; They are not variables.&nbsp; Because of that, you CAN model probability.&nbsp; Are you suggesting that the DM ignore this chart, and set arbitrary numbers?&nbsp; There's something to be said for that, the DM is the referee, right?&nbsp; But think of it this way.&nbsp; The chart is a guideline, meant to give a DM an idea of what the DC's should be.&nbsp; These numbers are off.&nbsp; That can't be questioned (sorry if you disagree there, but the math is very very sound).&nbsp; Now what we have to come up with is what those numbers should actually be.&nbsp; </blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dayspire, post: 4286675, member: 35765"] I'm beginning to understand why Wulf is getting frustrated with this thread. It's obvious that many people (not just you Entropi) do not read it in its entirety before posting. This tends to infuriate those of us who are paying close attention, looking for answers in the murky world of math. As to your point Entropi - what this whole thing about is the chart on page 42 that the DMG states is used for Skill Challenges. They are not 'variables'. The chart doesn't say "N+5" where N=a character's skill score. [b]They are not variables.[/b] Because of that, you CAN model probability. Are you suggesting that the DM ignore this chart, and set arbitrary numbers? There's something to be said for that, the DM is the referee, right? But think of it this way. The chart is a guideline, meant to give a DM an idea of what the DC's should be. These numbers are off. That can't be questioned (sorry if you disagree there, but the math is very very sound). Now what we have to come up with is [i]what those numbers should actually be. [/i] [/QUOTE]

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