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Message: <blockquote data-quote="PaulGreystoke" data-source="post: 1525421" data-attributes="member: 10810">It is always nice when someone who doesn't understand an explanation takes the time to insult the intelligence of those who took time out of their day to try to explain the situation. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Rather than argue the actual text (which has already been done admirably by Thanee & The Souljourner above) I will point out the flaw in your reasoning by example.  By your argument a spell that is being metamagicked can be Heightened for free.  For example, an Empowered spell takes up a slot 2 higher than the normal spell, so a 2nd level spell uses a 4th level slot.  You argue that you can then apply Heighten to this spell after the Empower (instead of simultaneously) & make it an effective 4th level spell at no cost because it is using a 4th level slot.  Yet if Empower weren't being applied to the spell, Heightening it to 4th level would require using a 4th level slot.  By your position Heighten is a nobrainer on any spell that is already being metamagicked - why not get the higher level effects if you have to use a higher level slot & have to take the other penalties for metamagicking (like increased casting time for sorcerors)?  In your world any caster with a metamagic feat should also take Heighten & should always Heighten whenever they apply metamagic because it has benefits with no cost.  I think it is clear that this was not the designer's intent. *shrug*</blockquote>

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