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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 1525781" data-attributes="member: 478">Ah, havn't read any further there... will look it up, tho.EDIT: Done. Doesn't really add much in terms of actual explanation, tho...I think noone will argue, that the wording is kinda screwed. They could have very easily used the same convention as with the other feats (that is, using a direct change of spell level (i.e. (in short) +1 spell level (cost) adds +1 effective spell level (effect), can be applied multiple times (variability)), instead of the indirect one they use with Heighten) and still keep it variable. Heighten is also one of the only feats that, because of that wording, do not work with Improved Metamagic. Might be intentional, tho. Who knows. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Please re-read this part carefully, it includes the actual rule quotes as well:What you are doing (IMHO) is picking out this part: "A heightened spell has a higher spell level than normal." and "Heighten Spell actually increases the effective level of the spell that it modifies.", and apply it to a heightened maximized spell, altho it only talks about Heighten Spell, thereby neglecting this part from the very important rule about multiple metamagic feats: "Changes to its (the spell's) level are cumulative." - Heighten Spell states, that the spell uses up a higher spell level: "A heightened spell has a higher spell level than normal... The heightened spell is as difficult to prepare and cast as a spell of its effective level." This is a cost, which is neglected in your way of thinking, altho the rules quite clearly state, that changes to the spell level (and indirect changes are also changes) are cumulative.ByeThanee</blockquote>

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