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<blockquote data-quote="apsuman" data-source="post: 1529252" data-attributes="member: 1769">Not all feats are supposed to be equal.&nbsp; Quicken is useless to a sorcerer so it too is unequal.&nbsp; Just because you would never take it does not mean the useful and fun character concepts wouldn't really utilize the feat.And, a sorcerer is only going to be using a higher spell slot for one of two reasons, 1) he has exhausested all of the spell's normal spell slot, or 2)he is wuppin' up some meta magic on the spell.&nbsp; Ergo, I am in contention with your assertion that &quot;sorcerer is already going to be doing that out of necessity&quot;.&nbsp; There are lots of good spells that simply benefite from the higher save.&nbsp; I have mentioned charm person several times.&nbsp; A 20th level wiz/sor against a 20th level fighter, has a VERY effecive spell with a heightened charm person in a ninth level slot.Also, you said &quot;The thing is, that is a drawback of the sorcerer that they need to do that so often.&quot; which is contrary to every sorcerer I have played.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="apsuman, post: 1529252, member: 1769"] Not all feats are supposed to be equal. Quicken is useless to a sorcerer so it too is unequal. Just because you would never take it does not mean the useful and fun character concepts wouldn't really utilize the feat. And, a sorcerer is only going to be using a higher spell slot for one of two reasons, 1) he has exhausested all of the spell's normal spell slot, or 2)he is wuppin' up some meta magic on the spell. Ergo, I am in contention with your assertion that "sorcerer is already going to be doing that out of necessity". There are lots of good spells that simply benefite from the higher save. I have mentioned charm person several times. A 20th level wiz/sor against a 20th level fighter, has a VERY effecive spell with a heightened charm person in a ninth level slot. Also, you said "The thing is, that is a drawback of the sorcerer that they need to do that so often." which is contrary to every sorcerer I have played. [/QUOTE]

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