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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lamoni" data-source="post: 1529347" data-attributes="member: 12680">I realize that every feat wasn't written to be equal with every other feat, but are you saying that if all feats were equal, it would be unbalancing?I was ignoring example 2 because that wasn't ever debated as being a good candidate for a heightened spell.  Example 1 was what I was talking about.  Maybe it isn't out of necessity, but the nature of sorcerers means limited spell selection.  They find themselves much more often in the situation where their highest level slots don't have useful spells for the situation at hand so they get used up with lower level spells once those lower slots are used up.  Or maybe they used up all their 3rd level slots with damage spells, then later in the day they need to use a 3rd level utility spell.  They'd have to use a higher spell slot.  That is part of the life as a sorcerer.  Therefore heighten spell allows for a 'free' increase in the DC when the sorcerer is using up a higher level slot anyway.I wasn't disputing that there were benefits.  I just don't think that I'd want to give up any 9th level spell slots for that charm person.  Casting it as a 1st level means a DC of 8 less, or a 40% greater chance of the opponent succeeding on their saving throw... but it is still just using a 1st level spell and by heightening it to 9th level there is only a 40% chance that it will even make any difference in the outcome.  A nice benefit, but still makes a difference less than half the time at the cost of a spell slot 8 levels higher.I think that it is a drawback of the sorcerer that they have a limited spell selection.  Due to the limited spell list, they resort to useing spells in higher level slots more often than wizards.  This is a drawback... not a large drawback, but the heighten spell feat mostly minimizes this drawback by allowing the spells to at least have a higher DC for using up the higher level slot.</blockquote>

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