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<blockquote data-quote="IceBear" data-source="post: 1529438" data-attributes="member: 1118">Yeah, I figured you would say you used the slot first and then heighten it, but since no one in my campaign ever casts a low level spell in a high level slot it's contrary to my normal thinking.&nbsp; Also, as Thanee said, all the other metamagic feats would be seen as &quot;free&quot; then too.&nbsp; Going to cast magic missle in a 4th level slot?&nbsp; Just as well maximize it first.The problem with that line of thought is that it's not supposed to matter as to the order of the applying of the feats.&nbsp; If you maximize first and then heighten you are at 4th level, but if you heighten to 4th and then maximize you are at 7th level.I don't know why I never read Heighten as you guys are.&nbsp; To me, all metamagic feats were always pay X levels to get some benefit and if you applied more than one, you added them all up to get the final total.&nbsp; I guess if one feat out of the bunch was a little unclear it just makes sense to use it like the others.&nbsp;&nbsp; I think the wheels are spinning here, so probably no point in continuing.&nbsp; Just so you know, I understand your position - I just don't agree with it <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp; Just like you understand mine and don't agree with it so I don't think either of us will convert the others.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="IceBear, post: 1529438, member: 1118"] Yeah, I figured you would say you used the slot first and then heighten it, but since no one in my campaign ever casts a low level spell in a high level slot it's contrary to my normal thinking. Also, as Thanee said, all the other metamagic feats would be seen as "free" then too. Going to cast magic missle in a 4th level slot? Just as well maximize it first. The problem with that line of thought is that it's not supposed to matter as to the order of the applying of the feats. If you maximize first and then heighten you are at 4th level, but if you heighten to 4th and then maximize you are at 7th level. I don't know why I never read Heighten as you guys are. To me, all metamagic feats were always pay X levels to get some benefit and if you applied more than one, you added them all up to get the final total. I guess if one feat out of the bunch was a little unclear it just makes sense to use it like the others. I think the wheels are spinning here, so probably no point in continuing. Just so you know, I understand your position - I just don't agree with it :) Just like you understand mine and don't agree with it so I don't think either of us will convert the others. [/QUOTE]

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