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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 6272535" data-attributes="member: 5143">No, it's not exclusionary but if we are being that broad then there ARE no new stories, ever.  I think they mean "new stories" in terms of the very specific details of those stories.  It's likely this story is actually one that can't be run in 4e at all.  Demons want to destroy the universe in 4e.  It's unlikely that they'd spend their time cultivating relationships of any kind.But the kind of things you'd see in the Abyss and Hell would be completely different in the 2 editions given they are very different places.  Also, you might be willing to take the risk given that there is no particular dislike between demons and devils in 4e but you might not want to involve yourself in the Blood War.  They'd be different stories in the 2 editions:  The reasons to go on the quests would be different, the places you'd visit would be different and it's likely your interactions with the creatures would be different.That example is just too similar in the two editions.  Let's say a story about attempting to find a Elemental Gem created by the Primordials during their war against the Gods.  It is now in the elemental chaos in an ice fortress with lava running through it guarded by elementals of all 4 varieties.  The fortress can be reached by walking.  It isn't environmentally dangerous to the PCs.That story would be difficult, if not impossible to run in previous editions.  The old elemental planes don't really allow that as an option.  The reason the planes are different is because the alignments are different so the planes no longer need to be tied to them.Yes, but you can't run the story where one member Galactic Senate on Coruscant can't seem to get off the planet without coming up with a LOT of convoluted reasons why there are no starships around.  Yes, MANY stories can be told.  But some cannot.  That's fine.  Restrictions often cause some of the best creativity.  However, if you want to open it up to entirely new stories something changing the restrictions helps.Yeah, I believe it's true for 1e, 2e, 3e, and 3.5e.  Though I could be wrong about 1e and 2e.  It's been a while.  I do remember 2e having some way to detect powerful as opposed to weak evil creatures.</blockquote>

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