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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 874861" data-attributes="member: 5834">ReThat is fine Hypersmurf. I concur, the rules are not ambiguous.I was giving the poster my opinion based on my experience. To me, roleplaying games should not be the equivalent of a legal debate. I understand that not everyone brings the same experience to the table, so they won't come to the same conclusions.I certainly don't want roleplaying games to devolve into some argument about the exact interpretation of the rules without us creative gamers being able to voice our opinions on certain matters based on our experience or understanding of how certain real world phenomena work. I have always played this game with people who like to sit down and think about the situations they are in and apply a good deal of common sense to the situation.For example, recently we were in a battle with stirges. The stirges attcked and started sticking their beaks into players. The players were killing the attached stirges. One of the players had the Cleave feat. We disallowed the use of the cleave feat because we felt a cleave blow should be a wide sweeping blow that can hit multiple enemies. We didn't feel a wide sweeping blow could be done while attacking attached stirges.This is the way we like to play. I always encourage others to think outside the box about the rules so that they are actually using their imagination to visualize what is actually occurring and see whether or not a rule should reasonably apply.I am of the opinion that being denied a dex bonus to AC when being caught "flat-footed" means you are slow to react or move. Slow reaction or movement would definitely affect your ability to dodge a fireball or lightning bolt as well as a sword blow or arrow shot. I feel this is consistent with the intent of the rule, but as you stated, not with the exact interpretation.</blockquote>

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