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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Valmur_Dwur" data-source="post: 343229" data-attributes="member: 5065"><p>I saw Banewarrens the other day at Barnes and Noble, but my hand was slapped so I put it back down<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />   However, the idea that a Int 24 creature should be played down is not using the creature correctly.  I agree that overconfidence can lead it to not use its full powers immediately.  Still there is a line of thought that if the party made it pass all the other obstructions set before them they must be strong enough to have the need to be taken down quickly.  A lich, dragon, or outsider who has encountered the party before the time they actually enter the inner santium of said creature, will take NO prisoners.  The party had the chance to leave earlier when they saw what they were up against.  To me it sounds AWFUL chessy to make a cool NPC and then say "Oh tone it down so the players can reap all the phat treasure a creature of this level has."</p></blockquote><p></p>