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Hello, I am lawyer with a PSA: almost everyone is wrong about the OGL and SRD. Clearing up confusion.
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<blockquote data-quote="robconley" data-source="post: 8898261" data-attributes="member: 5636"><p>I appreciate everyone answering my questions. Pointing where I was wrong and where I understood the situation.</p><p></p><p>But be aware, despite all the legalities recent events as unleashed something deeper throughout the hobby.</p><p></p><p>Means the license is owned and handled by a non-profit. The GPL copyright is owned by the Free Software Foundation a non-profit organization that has no vested interest in any software company in the industry.</p><p></p><p>The plan is to have it work just like GNU Public License. I suggest reading up on it to see the role that the Free Software Foundation plays and how they assist those who use the license. If for example if the lawsuit is about the validity of the GPL then the FSF will often assist with legal aid. I wish there is a simple explanation that shows the nuances but there isn't. Do the research, you will see what I mean and understand the nuances of what the FSF does and doesn't do along with the other non-profits that have open content licenses.</p><p></p><p>As for the immediate issue of losing the OGL thus the right to use the content of the d20 and 5e SRD. ORC isn't a fix. Pathfinder and all the other related system will have to survive whatever legal challenge Wizards throws at them. This is a long term fix to the problems and vulnerabilities that were discovered. This is being done for the entire industry and hobby, not just Paizo.</p><p></p><p>I know in a world of conflict and greed this is hard to believe. That there has to be some catch. There isn't. The whole reason you can see what I am typing, and respond with your points and criticism is a result of belief in open content freely shared, usable by all without any restriction. Some require you must share what you do with the content under the same terms. Some don't.</p><p></p><p><strong>Paizo</strong></p><p>In regards to Pazio motivations the assertion being made is</p><p></p><p>Wizards of the Coast took the initiative in creating the OGL and releasing the D20 SRD as open content under the OGL. One important reason that Wizards took the lead was Ryan Dancey sold them on the idea that it would led to D&D 3.0 dominating the hobby and industry for a variety of good reasons. There was nobody else involved at first. The fact that the OGL 1.0a was also in part a result of passionate belief in open gaming that start with WoTC experience with Primal Order was either hidden or deemphasized by those in involve. But Dancey admitted that was part of why it was proposed in the first place.</p><p></p><p>In contrast, ORC while led by Paizo is not about creating the dominance of Pathfinder. If you look at the list of participants you will notice that many of them offer their own systems. Granted most are D&D related but not NOT Pathfinder 1e or 2e related. Alongside the D&D crowd there are those who have their own systems. </p><p></p><p>I have no doubt that Paizo factors in the goodwill by their willingness to release open content and expects increased sales as a result. However in the case of ORC instead of the halfway adoption of how the open source world handled things, they are following more closely their footsteps.</p><p></p><p>Finally note that Paizo continually <a href="https://2e.aonprd.com/Sources.aspx?Group=1" target="_blank">releases as open content</a> the text of their major sourcebooks. Far beyond what other company do with the OGL that operate at their tier. You can see all the sources they opened by clicking on the sources menu on the left.</p><p></p><p>Pathfinder 2e</p><p>[ATTACH=full]272587[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Starfinder</p><p>[ATTACH=full]272588[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>I am sure that Paizo would love to be the market leader. But altruism and passionate belief in open gaming are among their primary motivation. More than the OGL initial release, ORC is a good thing being done for good reasons. And if the entire team of folks (not just Paizo) pull it off they earned every kudos they get.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="robconley, post: 8898261, member: 5636"] I appreciate everyone answering my questions. Pointing where I was wrong and where I understood the situation. But be aware, despite all the legalities recent events as unleashed something deeper throughout the hobby. Means the license is owned and handled by a non-profit. The GPL copyright is owned by the Free Software Foundation a non-profit organization that has no vested interest in any software company in the industry. The plan is to have it work just like GNU Public License. I suggest reading up on it to see the role that the Free Software Foundation plays and how they assist those who use the license. If for example if the lawsuit is about the validity of the GPL then the FSF will often assist with legal aid. I wish there is a simple explanation that shows the nuances but there isn't. Do the research, you will see what I mean and understand the nuances of what the FSF does and doesn't do along with the other non-profits that have open content licenses. As for the immediate issue of losing the OGL thus the right to use the content of the d20 and 5e SRD. ORC isn't a fix. Pathfinder and all the other related system will have to survive whatever legal challenge Wizards throws at them. This is a long term fix to the problems and vulnerabilities that were discovered. This is being done for the entire industry and hobby, not just Paizo. I know in a world of conflict and greed this is hard to believe. That there has to be some catch. There isn't. The whole reason you can see what I am typing, and respond with your points and criticism is a result of belief in open content freely shared, usable by all without any restriction. Some require you must share what you do with the content under the same terms. Some don't. [B]Paizo[/B] In regards to Pazio motivations the assertion being made is Wizards of the Coast took the initiative in creating the OGL and releasing the D20 SRD as open content under the OGL. One important reason that Wizards took the lead was Ryan Dancey sold them on the idea that it would led to D&D 3.0 dominating the hobby and industry for a variety of good reasons. There was nobody else involved at first. The fact that the OGL 1.0a was also in part a result of passionate belief in open gaming that start with WoTC experience with Primal Order was either hidden or deemphasized by those in involve. But Dancey admitted that was part of why it was proposed in the first place. In contrast, ORC while led by Paizo is not about creating the dominance of Pathfinder. If you look at the list of participants you will notice that many of them offer their own systems. Granted most are D&D related but not NOT Pathfinder 1e or 2e related. Alongside the D&D crowd there are those who have their own systems. I have no doubt that Paizo factors in the goodwill by their willingness to release open content and expects increased sales as a result. However in the case of ORC instead of the halfway adoption of how the open source world handled things, they are following more closely their footsteps. Finally note that Paizo continually [URL='https://2e.aonprd.com/Sources.aspx?Group=1']releases as open content[/URL] the text of their major sourcebooks. Far beyond what other company do with the OGL that operate at their tier. You can see all the sources they opened by clicking on the sources menu on the left. Pathfinder 2e [ATTACH type="full" width="303px" alt="1673753515516.png"]272587[/ATTACH] Starfinder [ATTACH type="full" width="303px" alt="1673753559855.png"]272588[/ATTACH] I am sure that Paizo would love to be the market leader. But altruism and passionate belief in open gaming are among their primary motivation. More than the OGL initial release, ORC is a good thing being done for good reasons. And if the entire team of folks (not just Paizo) pull it off they earned every kudos they get. [/QUOTE]
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