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Helm of Opposite Alignment ... Think "A Clockwork Orange"
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<blockquote data-quote="Felix" data-source="post: 3659714" data-attributes="member: 3929"><p>What do you think a forced alignment shift would do to a person's soul? How would you run it?</p><p></p><p>Say, for example, that a powerful cleric of Bane were Helmed and now he is earnest in his atonement for his past Evil deeds. Can he truly redeem himself?</p><p></p><p>The Helm creates a compulsion that can be removed by mortal magic, and the soul restored to its original state. What does this mean for the Banite cleric who earnestly and fervently desired atonement, but was targeted by a <em>Miracle</em> cast by one of his Banite superiors? Is he re-set to Evil? Would an <em>Atonement</em> cast during his time of Chaotic Goodness affect the result? Would any atonement taken while under magical compulsion rate as earnest?</p><p></p><p>And if the Helm is mortal magic, and can be removed by mortal magic, could not the magical effect end with the target's death, leaving the soul now free to return to whatever awaited him before he was Helmed?</p><p></p><p>Perhaps Good churches would eschew this method on the grounds that because it is a compulsion, the subsequent atonement can never really hold onto the person's soul, and so by Helming a prisoner, you deny them the ability to ever choose Good and redemption on their own, thus damning their soul to wherever it was going before you Helmed them...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree that this Helming to convert would work best in a non-standard setting where there is no parity between the powers of the various churches; a theocracy of one religion might consider using this method, depending upon its views towards the rights of the condemned and the state of their souls afterwards.</p><p></p><p></p><p>To be sure. And a great way to get PCs to fight and destabilize a Good government; after which the Evil government (former PCs' employers) rises and <em>really</em> shows them innovations in destroying free will. *twirls moustache* Ha ha.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Felix, post: 3659714, member: 3929"] What do you think a forced alignment shift would do to a person's soul? How would you run it? Say, for example, that a powerful cleric of Bane were Helmed and now he is earnest in his atonement for his past Evil deeds. Can he truly redeem himself? The Helm creates a compulsion that can be removed by mortal magic, and the soul restored to its original state. What does this mean for the Banite cleric who earnestly and fervently desired atonement, but was targeted by a [i]Miracle[/i] cast by one of his Banite superiors? Is he re-set to Evil? Would an [i]Atonement[/i] cast during his time of Chaotic Goodness affect the result? Would any atonement taken while under magical compulsion rate as earnest? And if the Helm is mortal magic, and can be removed by mortal magic, could not the magical effect end with the target's death, leaving the soul now free to return to whatever awaited him before he was Helmed? Perhaps Good churches would eschew this method on the grounds that because it is a compulsion, the subsequent atonement can never really hold onto the person's soul, and so by Helming a prisoner, you deny them the ability to ever choose Good and redemption on their own, thus damning their soul to wherever it was going before you Helmed them... I agree that this Helming to convert would work best in a non-standard setting where there is no parity between the powers of the various churches; a theocracy of one religion might consider using this method, depending upon its views towards the rights of the condemned and the state of their souls afterwards. To be sure. And a great way to get PCs to fight and destabilize a Good government; after which the Evil government (former PCs' employers) rises and [i]really[/i] shows them innovations in destroying free will. *twirls moustache* Ha ha. [/QUOTE]
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