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<blockquote data-quote="green slime" data-source="post: 3661356" data-attributes="member: 1325"><p>It may be the lesser evil. Unneccessary violence is surely Evil. However satisifying it may be to me personally, shooting the rapist in the head cannot be considered a good act. In fact, I'd say, yes, that is an evil act. I don't think I'd let that consideration actually stop me, though.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'd argue otherwise, but there we just differ. I'll just say, that there are levels of evil, and that a minor use of force, may be justifiable in a certain situation, but that does not remove the onus on the individual commiting the violence to prove that the level of violence used was indeed justifiable.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, it makes for busy policemen, and is a case of society declaring its citizens impotent and imbecilic. Which we see more and more of.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>We were talking about "helming" individuals the state didn't like, then spanking. Now it is saving a life.... How would you have it? Where did I state, that saving a life was not worth committing a microscopic evil? It could hardly be said to be painful. Of course, this is never a problem anywhere. Secondly, the entire scenario could have been prevented with some forethought, on the part of the guardian. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, I still disagree. The use of force against others is inherently evil. However, any specific act consists of all of its parts, and the evil of the use of force against others may be justifiable in certain circumstances. Saving a life, for instance. But you must be able to justify it, to whichever nonbiased authority you defer to (God, Allah, the Justice Department, JLA, or preferably, me <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue :P" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" /> ). Without the justification, it is wrong. The very fact that you need to justify an act of force against others indicates, that in and of itself, the use of force against others is wrong, but that there may exist extenuating circumstances, for which the use of force was acceptable in that specific case.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="green slime, post: 3661356, member: 1325"] It may be the lesser evil. Unneccessary violence is surely Evil. However satisifying it may be to me personally, shooting the rapist in the head cannot be considered a good act. In fact, I'd say, yes, that is an evil act. I don't think I'd let that consideration actually stop me, though. I'd argue otherwise, but there we just differ. I'll just say, that there are levels of evil, and that a minor use of force, may be justifiable in a certain situation, but that does not remove the onus on the individual commiting the violence to prove that the level of violence used was indeed justifiable. No, it makes for busy policemen, and is a case of society declaring its citizens impotent and imbecilic. Which we see more and more of. We were talking about "helming" individuals the state didn't like, then spanking. Now it is saving a life.... How would you have it? Where did I state, that saving a life was not worth committing a microscopic evil? It could hardly be said to be painful. Of course, this is never a problem anywhere. Secondly, the entire scenario could have been prevented with some forethought, on the part of the guardian. No, I still disagree. The use of force against others is inherently evil. However, any specific act consists of all of its parts, and the evil of the use of force against others may be justifiable in certain circumstances. Saving a life, for instance. But you must be able to justify it, to whichever nonbiased authority you defer to (God, Allah, the Justice Department, JLA, or preferably, me :P ). Without the justification, it is wrong. The very fact that you need to justify an act of force against others indicates, that in and of itself, the use of force against others is wrong, but that there may exist extenuating circumstances, for which the use of force was acceptable in that specific case. [/QUOTE]
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