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Message: <blockquote data-quote="green slime" data-source="post: 3661924" data-attributes="member: 1325">Because you are twisting words.Firstly, the use of violence against another is evil. Secondly, saving a life is good.Thirdly what happens, when you are use one to achieve the other? Obviously the act of saving cannot be both good and evil. Therefore, there must be some compromise. What level of violence was used, and against whom? When this is defined, some measure must be taken. Now, I am not fully qualified to do this, (I am not yet all knowing, nor do I pretend to be able to measure all the qualities of men and their ilk). Taken as a whole, the act of dragging someone to safety is good. However, use that same level force on someone just standing on the street corner minding their own business, isn't even remotely neutral. Therefore, without the context of saving, on another person, the act of violence is evil. It is only commutted by the sheer neccessity of rescue.So grabbing the individual and dragging them from the flow of onrushing traffic is generally regarded as a good act, because the act of saving far outweighs the use of violence in this example. You cannot take something out of context. There are all sorts of other more complicated, contrived examples we could discuss, yet it boils down to the same basic fundamentals. If violence is merely a neutral act, when does an act of violence become evil? at what level? Is it OK to beat a wife for talking back? Punch someone on a whim "he looked at me strange" or "he said he doesn't like green"?I find it far easier to assume all violence against others wrong, until it is proven it was absolutely neccessary. With regards to team sports, this is really starting to get ludicrous. I suppose consenting sex is violent as well. Most players on the field of sports have consented to playing according to a strict set of rules. I suppose there could be a few football players with too few grey cells remaining to actually have any free will. But I seriously doubt it. Now if the players are forced upon the field in a similar fashion to the "games" of Rome, then yes, that is evil.</blockquote>

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