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Help a Poor Soul Figure out "Astral Projection"
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<blockquote data-quote="reanjr" data-source="post: 1692142" data-attributes="member: 20740"><p>As for the RAW (checked SRD and Manual of the Planes):</p><p></p><p>1. Correct</p><p>2. Nothing prohibits this</p><p>3. Hard to say for sure; but I would say no. In my opinion Plane Shift would affect the actual body and not the Astral Projection, so you would have one "self" on the Plane of Shadow after doing this. It really would be left up to the DM, though, as the rules don't indicate either way.</p><p>4. Same rules-murkiness as #3, but in this case I would say that the projection could be dismissed or banished.</p><p>5. I'd say #1 works just fine.</p><p>6. It gets duplicated, but as soon as the Astral Projection ends, the Astral version dissipates. Even if the item was stolen from the projection and taken to another plane. The original could be stolen in the meantime, though <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p>7. I am not familiar with Pandora's Box, but in general it should work as normal on the projection. Since normal damage does not affect the body, I would say that means magical effects on the projection do not affect the body once the Projection is done.</p><p></p><p>Now, as for the spirit of the rules (and gleaning info from 2e Planescape), these are my opinions:</p><p></p><p>1. No. Moving to the Prime Material (no matter where on the Prime you reenter) from projection causes the spell to end.</p><p>2. Right</p><p>3. Astral Projection ends and then the original body Plane Shifts.</p><p>4. He is indeed extra-planar. Banishment and Dismissal end the spell.</p><p>5. I'd say no. Astral Projection is meant as a protection and as a safe mode of temporary planar travel.</p><p>6. It's duplicated. Still dissipates at end of spell, though.</p><p>7. The effect only affects the projection.</p><p></p><p>That spell really needs a book dedicated to it...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="reanjr, post: 1692142, member: 20740"] As for the RAW (checked SRD and Manual of the Planes): 1. Correct 2. Nothing prohibits this 3. Hard to say for sure; but I would say no. In my opinion Plane Shift would affect the actual body and not the Astral Projection, so you would have one "self" on the Plane of Shadow after doing this. It really would be left up to the DM, though, as the rules don't indicate either way. 4. Same rules-murkiness as #3, but in this case I would say that the projection could be dismissed or banished. 5. I'd say #1 works just fine. 6. It gets duplicated, but as soon as the Astral Projection ends, the Astral version dissipates. Even if the item was stolen from the projection and taken to another plane. The original could be stolen in the meantime, though ;) 7. I am not familiar with Pandora's Box, but in general it should work as normal on the projection. Since normal damage does not affect the body, I would say that means magical effects on the projection do not affect the body once the Projection is done. Now, as for the spirit of the rules (and gleaning info from 2e Planescape), these are my opinions: 1. No. Moving to the Prime Material (no matter where on the Prime you reenter) from projection causes the spell to end. 2. Right 3. Astral Projection ends and then the original body Plane Shifts. 4. He is indeed extra-planar. Banishment and Dismissal end the spell. 5. I'd say no. Astral Projection is meant as a protection and as a safe mode of temporary planar travel. 6. It's duplicated. Still dissipates at end of spell, though. 7. The effect only affects the projection. That spell really needs a book dedicated to it... [/QUOTE]
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