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<blockquote data-quote="Quickleaf" data-source="post: 2465118" data-attributes="member: 20323"><p>Ok, nice start!</p><p></p><p>Are these are supposed to be covert operatives? At least that's what I'm guessing from your description, which I recommend heavily expanding on. You've obviously got some cool history which includes a false history hiding all sorts of demon summoning, and, I'm guessing goetic magic. Your current abilities seem to be a fiend slayer -- not much supports your idea of "men and woman in black cloaks." Which, by the way, I like infinitely more than a simple demon killer concept.</p><p></p><p>I would expect to see: some way to alter/erase memories of those who saw a demon, an innocuous face ability which allows them to avoid drawing attention, a demonlogy ability which allows them to assess/identify a demonic opponent, some investigate skills could be useful too, perhaps a way to bind demons? (see my deev biner feat over here... <a href="http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=134757" target="_blank">http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=134757</a> ).</p><p></p><p>Are these guys uncompromising knights? Your description doesn't describe them that way. In fact, they sound almost roguish. Do they operate in cities? If so, maybe some city-benefits could be a nice way to round them out, like a way to prevent a possessor demon from switching bodies, a way to track a tempter or an invisible/incorporeal demon, a way to sense if a wizard has been dabbling in goetia or demonism, and a ritual that can be performed over a corpse to prevent it from being risen as undead or inhabited by demons.</p><p></p><p>Also, you've got an organization of people working secretly. What organization benefits does a character get? Are there any drawbacks or weaknesses? For example, do they have political enemies or can demons sense them? Also, consider whether they have a special method of communicating, like hand signals, or a special language - this is always useful when giving commands to allies during battle.</p><p></p><p>And their holy symbol...it's got to get some cool power right? At least something like automatically being aided by friends of the order, though maybe a +4 hardness, or the ability to open certain secret doors of the elves might be cool.</p><p></p><p>Just another approach. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Quickleaf, post: 2465118, member: 20323"] Ok, nice start! Are these are supposed to be covert operatives? At least that's what I'm guessing from your description, which I recommend heavily expanding on. You've obviously got some cool history which includes a false history hiding all sorts of demon summoning, and, I'm guessing goetic magic. Your current abilities seem to be a fiend slayer -- not much supports your idea of "men and woman in black cloaks." Which, by the way, I like infinitely more than a simple demon killer concept. I would expect to see: some way to alter/erase memories of those who saw a demon, an innocuous face ability which allows them to avoid drawing attention, a demonlogy ability which allows them to assess/identify a demonic opponent, some investigate skills could be useful too, perhaps a way to bind demons? (see my deev biner feat over here... [url]http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=134757[/url] ). Are these guys uncompromising knights? Your description doesn't describe them that way. In fact, they sound almost roguish. Do they operate in cities? If so, maybe some city-benefits could be a nice way to round them out, like a way to prevent a possessor demon from switching bodies, a way to track a tempter or an invisible/incorporeal demon, a way to sense if a wizard has been dabbling in goetia or demonism, and a ritual that can be performed over a corpse to prevent it from being risen as undead or inhabited by demons. Also, you've got an organization of people working secretly. What organization benefits does a character get? Are there any drawbacks or weaknesses? For example, do they have political enemies or can demons sense them? Also, consider whether they have a special method of communicating, like hand signals, or a special language - this is always useful when giving commands to allies during battle. And their holy symbol...it's got to get some cool power right? At least something like automatically being aided by friends of the order, though maybe a +4 hardness, or the ability to open certain secret doors of the elves might be cool. Just another approach. ;) [/QUOTE]
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