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<blockquote data-quote="Quickleaf" data-source="post: 2465355" data-attributes="member: 20323"><p>Oh, of course I should of ask. What kind of game do you play in? RP-centric? Hack and slash? Investigative? City? Lots of travel?</p><p>And...even more importantly, what kind of character if your paladin PC? What kind of PrC would they be interested in. The PrC in its original form is suited to someone who likes to wade into combat and anticpates battling demons face-to-face, sword against claw. Is this what your paladin PC wants?</p><p></p><p><strong>The Flavor</strong></p><p>I highly suggest working out the details of the order some more before getting into the nitty gritty of the abilities. I know it always helps me, so here are some questions:</p><p>- Who is the founder of the order? What legacy have they left behind?</p><p>- Who knows about the order? Who are their enemies and allies?</p><p>- Are there any subdivisions, heresies, or factions within the order?</p><p>- How do elves view the order? How about humans? How are half-elf members viewed?</p><p>- What is the meaning of the symbolism behind their holy symbol?</p><p>- What is the structure of the order? Hierarchy? Cells?</p><p>- What sorts of resources/power bases does the order have?</p><p>- How does a member of this order react around a demon?</p><p>- What does their training involve?</p><p></p><p><strong>The Crunch</strong></p><p>Here are my suggestions on edits to the current class abilities in order to make a more specialized secret operative against demons. This concept fits a world in which demons aren't waging open warfare or invading all-out, but rather insinuating themselves into noble society, corrupting high-level mages, hiding in criminal organizations, possessing animals, etc.</p><p>As a side note, I'd reduce Caster advancement to +1/3 levels to bring the power down, and there's nothing about the class that says it focuses on magic.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'd change this to allow the character's attacks to be considered good/holy for the purposes of overcoming damage reduction.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Should be for purposes of censuring demons only, not undead.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Nice ability, makes sense.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'd get rid of this ability, and replace it with demonology.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I would remove this ability and replace it with a power to force an incorporeal creature to assume physical form, or to hedge out a possessing force, etc.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I like this. You might want to consider whether it makes sense for the abilities to extend to his allies.... I can see it working either way.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Hmmm...a bit overdone, especially for someone who doesn't want their presence to be known by the masses. I'd replace it with a special organization benefit that gives the character access to demon-binding vaults, high-level protective circles which can be used to banish captive demons, etc.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Also needs to be replaced.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Quickleaf, post: 2465355, member: 20323"] Oh, of course I should of ask. What kind of game do you play in? RP-centric? Hack and slash? Investigative? City? Lots of travel? And...even more importantly, what kind of character if your paladin PC? What kind of PrC would they be interested in. The PrC in its original form is suited to someone who likes to wade into combat and anticpates battling demons face-to-face, sword against claw. Is this what your paladin PC wants? [b]The Flavor[/b] I highly suggest working out the details of the order some more before getting into the nitty gritty of the abilities. I know it always helps me, so here are some questions: - Who is the founder of the order? What legacy have they left behind? - Who knows about the order? Who are their enemies and allies? - Are there any subdivisions, heresies, or factions within the order? - How do elves view the order? How about humans? How are half-elf members viewed? - What is the meaning of the symbolism behind their holy symbol? - What is the structure of the order? Hierarchy? Cells? - What sorts of resources/power bases does the order have? - How does a member of this order react around a demon? - What does their training involve? [b]The Crunch[/b] Here are my suggestions on edits to the current class abilities in order to make a more specialized secret operative against demons. This concept fits a world in which demons aren't waging open warfare or invading all-out, but rather insinuating themselves into noble society, corrupting high-level mages, hiding in criminal organizations, possessing animals, etc. As a side note, I'd reduce Caster advancement to +1/3 levels to bring the power down, and there's nothing about the class that says it focuses on magic. I'd change this to allow the character's attacks to be considered good/holy for the purposes of overcoming damage reduction. Should be for purposes of censuring demons only, not undead. Nice ability, makes sense. I'd get rid of this ability, and replace it with demonology. I would remove this ability and replace it with a power to force an incorporeal creature to assume physical form, or to hedge out a possessing force, etc. I like this. You might want to consider whether it makes sense for the abilities to extend to his allies.... I can see it working either way. Hmmm...a bit overdone, especially for someone who doesn't want their presence to be known by the masses. I'd replace it with a special organization benefit that gives the character access to demon-binding vaults, high-level protective circles which can be used to banish captive demons, etc. Also needs to be replaced. [/QUOTE]
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