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<blockquote data-quote="Cap'n Kobold" data-source="post: 8197905" data-attributes="member: 6802951"><p>OK. I was under the impression that you were using a normal PC base race and reskinning.</p><p>It is impossible to give you an evaluation of how gonzo this is as a class is if you're just pulling a dragon's stats out of the MM and using those - There is just too much variation.</p><p>Since this is a one-shot homebrew for a specific character we can however compare your actual character with an equivalent normal PC of the same level.</p><p></p><p>So: what are the actual stats of your character that will be used with this class? What dragon are you using the abilities of?</p><p>What level range will the game be running though?</p><p></p><p> Lots of humans are stuck in human form, have an adventurous career, but don't get training in martial weapons and shields. Shields take considerably more training to use properly - Its not just a case of holding it in front of you. There is little difference in power between having training with all martial weapons and training with a few that you pick.</p><p></p><p>The Magus is a "gish" (combined spellcaster/fighter.) It does not have full spell progression or full fighter attack progression if I remember correctly.</p><p></p><p> Fire resistance is a major ability for a class or race. Blindsight 30ft is the sort of thing a class would grant as a significant power increase, not as a ribbon.</p><p></p><p> I'd say give 1 point or 4 rather than messing with multiple d2s. If a creature is resistant to to your damage, then it is resistant to your damage.</p><p></p><p> 5e dragons are innate spellcasters like sorcerors and cast spells on a daily basis like sorcerors.</p><p>If you want a dragon-based full-caster class that uses sorcery points, why are you not using the Draconic Sorceror? </p><p></p><p> No. Remove the penalty, get extra attack at 6th or 7th level and the ability to combine cantrips and attacks at 11th I think.</p><p></p><p>Dragons are innate spellcasters. If they want to learn spells like a wizard, they can take levels in Wizard. So can you. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-p" title="Stick out tongue :-p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":-p" /></p><p></p><p> When a caster of any other class runs out od spells, they are down to cantrips or weapon attacks. If you want to be able to do both in the same round, then your at-will damage is going to be much higher than just a cantrip - Which means that your spellcasting will have to be reduced to compensate.</p><p>If your at-will damage is as good as a basic fighter, then your spellcasting should only be as good as a basic fighter etc.</p><p></p><p> A set list of a couple of non-optimised spells depending on dragon type is probably a better idea. Cherrypicking spells from any list is a significant part of the Bard's power and schtick.</p><p></p><p> Once we know what your character's actual stats are, we can compare your performance with this class to that of a normal PC race and class and give you an idea of how to balance it.</p><p> As a base class concept however, is this a primary caster class, or a primary combat class, or a half-and half?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cap'n Kobold, post: 8197905, member: 6802951"] OK. I was under the impression that you were using a normal PC base race and reskinning. It is impossible to give you an evaluation of how gonzo this is as a class is if you're just pulling a dragon's stats out of the MM and using those - There is just too much variation. Since this is a one-shot homebrew for a specific character we can however compare your actual character with an equivalent normal PC of the same level. So: what are the actual stats of your character that will be used with this class? What dragon are you using the abilities of? What level range will the game be running though? Lots of humans are stuck in human form, have an adventurous career, but don't get training in martial weapons and shields. Shields take considerably more training to use properly - Its not just a case of holding it in front of you. There is little difference in power between having training with all martial weapons and training with a few that you pick. The Magus is a "gish" (combined spellcaster/fighter.) It does not have full spell progression or full fighter attack progression if I remember correctly. Fire resistance is a major ability for a class or race. Blindsight 30ft is the sort of thing a class would grant as a significant power increase, not as a ribbon. I'd say give 1 point or 4 rather than messing with multiple d2s. If a creature is resistant to to your damage, then it is resistant to your damage. 5e dragons are innate spellcasters like sorcerors and cast spells on a daily basis like sorcerors. If you want a dragon-based full-caster class that uses sorcery points, why are you not using the Draconic Sorceror? No. Remove the penalty, get extra attack at 6th or 7th level and the ability to combine cantrips and attacks at 11th I think. Dragons are innate spellcasters. If they want to learn spells like a wizard, they can take levels in Wizard. So can you. :-p When a caster of any other class runs out od spells, they are down to cantrips or weapon attacks. If you want to be able to do both in the same round, then your at-will damage is going to be much higher than just a cantrip - Which means that your spellcasting will have to be reduced to compensate. If your at-will damage is as good as a basic fighter, then your spellcasting should only be as good as a basic fighter etc. A set list of a couple of non-optimised spells depending on dragon type is probably a better idea. Cherrypicking spells from any list is a significant part of the Bard's power and schtick. Once we know what your character's actual stats are, we can compare your performance with this class to that of a normal PC race and class and give you an idea of how to balance it. As a base class concept however, is this a primary caster class, or a primary combat class, or a half-and half? [/QUOTE]
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