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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kupursk" data-source="post: 7562262" data-attributes="member: 6986037">Yeah I'm aware of this Barbarian combo of advantage + great weapon. And the Smite damage seems more or less in line with the Smite from 3e (which was +Class Level to damage.)I didn't want to count the Great Weapon feat, though, as short of having some "perma" advantage like that it doesn't seem reliable with the -5 to hit. So I went for the Sword and Shield fighter.Champion Fighter also seemed like the best baseline class to compare.So I guess archers are the big damage dealers now, then? That's quite the change, considering melee used to be much stronger in general, back in 2e and 3e (again, core rules considered, not counting possible broken feat combos.)</blockquote>