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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Runestar" data-source="post: 4566427" data-attributes="member: 72317">Well, the astral deva comes across as being a tad underpowered to me at ECL20. I think what the designers did was try to make it more attractive by front-loading many of its abilities (for instance, you get 5 outsider HD for your 1st 5 lvs, sr at lv8 and the equivalent of a 5th lv spell at 3rd lv - because wotc was too lazy to come up with a proper progression for them?). As such, it is fairly powerful at lower lvs, and slows down at mid-higher lvs. If you don't expect your campaign to last past lv12, it was a fairly powerful choice for a PC.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Also, I felt that while it received a lot of defensive capabilities, its offensive prowess left a little to be desired. It was hard to kill, but didn't really do much damage, and so was relegated to a support role for most part.Though the 3.0 progression was riddled with errors and inconsistencies (for instance, it was missing +8dex, and should not get electricity immunity. Though I disagree that he should get the +1 stat boost every 4th HD, since these should already have been factored into his stat adjustments.I will see if I can get around to posting my own revision as well, since I don't have it on hand at the moment, though it is for most part quite similar to StreamOfTheSky's. Though I did front load some of the HD, flight still accrues earlier, and was not staggered as extensively.Hmm...maybe I will get around to revising my own astral deva (no doubt one of my more favourite monster progressions) once more...<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></blockquote>

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