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Message: <blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 4567028" data-attributes="member: 35909">Yes.  It has 12 racial HD and a +8 level adjustment.  If you look at the progression, it says at each level if you gain a HD.  If not, you're effectively "gaining" +1 point of your LA.  You would not be able to take a class level until epic levels.  As for being powerful, you have to remember: It for the standard levels 1-20 of play is providing you with your racial AND class abilities effectively, since you can't take a class.  And besides that, it's also dropping you 8 HD from a typical human along the way!  By the end, I'd say Astral Deva is roughly balanced with a Human [Class] 20.  If anything, it will have a wider range of stuff, but a lot less ability to specialize.  The only time it's noticeably more powerful, even with my friend's progression, is very early levels.  you would be starting at 7 or so, so this isn't an issue.Raptorans - You could always try and re-flavor the race while leaving the mechanics the same.  Maybe they're faintly related to the elemental plane of air (already have some ties).  Maybe they're descended from celestials or dragons, and have the wing appearance to match.  Of course, in the latter two cases, you'd likely gain a "blooded" type, like dragon blooded, which is a minor boon as it opens up options like draconic feats.ToB - Yeah, I kinda figured so, a lot of people don't want to bother with it.  If you have C.Champion and still want an aerial charger, check out Lion Totem Barbarian.  It lets you trade Fast Movement for Pounce.  Your DM might ban it on sight, though.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I don't know what this means....  Longsword > Bastard Sword > Greatsword and thus he uses a longsword?From seeing that player in action with his astral deva, I'd agree with your assessment completely.  he used a reach weapon and had Flyby Attack, generally either using spell-like abilities (and wands) as primarily a buffer and party healer or doing skirmishing melee attacks for small damage.  The lack of class and only the typical feat allotment by hit dice (and reduced HD at that) make it very hard to be an offensive powerhouse, though his character was indeed very hard to kill.  And he still enjoyed it, it just...wasn't a massive damage dealer.</blockquote>

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