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<blockquote data-quote="jontherev" data-source="post: 20448" data-attributes="member: 1451">Pain TouchYou need a 19 wisdom to get Pain Touch, if your DM will allow feats from the fighter/monk sourcebook Sword &amp; Fist.&nbsp; It's an excellent feat that makes an opponent who is stunned by you to be nauseated for the round AFTER it is stunned.&nbsp; Plus, at 8th level you can bump it up to 20 to get a +5 to AC, +5 to will saves, and a +5 to your stunning attack DC (which is a healthy 18!).&nbsp; Add a periapt of wisdom +2/+4, and you've got it made.&nbsp; Another idea is taking combat reflexes and then expert tactician (also in Sword and the Fist, updated in Song and Silence).&nbsp; That would give you an extra attack every time you stun someone.&nbsp; The real kicker though is if you get some Ki Straps (ahem...Sword and the Fist), which would add another +5 to your stun DC.&nbsp; Add an ally rogue flanking him for more mayhem...except vs. undead and other nasties immune to stunning.&nbsp; YMMV.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jontherev, post: 20448, member: 1451"] [b]Pain Touch[/b] You need a 19 wisdom to get Pain Touch, if your DM will allow feats from the fighter/monk sourcebook Sword & Fist. It's an excellent feat that makes an opponent who is stunned by you to be nauseated for the round AFTER it is stunned. Plus, at 8th level you can bump it up to 20 to get a +5 to AC, +5 to will saves, and a +5 to your stunning attack DC (which is a [I]healthy[/I] 18!). Add a periapt of wisdom +2/+4, and you've got it made. Another idea is taking combat reflexes and then expert tactician (also in Sword and the Fist, updated in Song and Silence). That would give you an extra attack every time you stun someone. The real kicker though is if you get some Ki Straps (ahem...Sword and the Fist), which would add another +5 to your stun DC. Add an ally rogue flanking him for more mayhem...except vs. undead and other nasties immune to stunning. YMMV. [/QUOTE]

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