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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Valorian" data-source="post: 21955" data-attributes="member: 1284">Re: WowIt seems to be a popular consensus (for a reason I cannot fathom at all), is that Monk's benifit greatly from the Spring Attack Feat....I completely disagree...I've played a monk, and see only counter-productivity in its use, and not much use for the feats required to get this feat (dodge and mobility).The monk's large benefit in combat is their huge rate of attacks (they get the best progression in the game [only a -3 per blow with unarmed], and get flurry of blows, as a level 7 Monk, you can get 3 blows a round, but spring attack limits you to only one.  Yes you can be a little more cagy with your actions, but you do so little damage to the oposition that it hardly matters that your in the fight (at least compared to the powerhouse fighter and barbarians).One of the monk's big limitations is thier BAB progression, I'd specialize in unarmed (only if your DM allows the "amulet of mighty fists from Sword & Fist) or a "monk weapon"...I personally think the Butterfly Swords (from Oriental Adventures) 1d6 damage with crit on a 19-20, get a "keen" enchantent and the improved critical feat at some time.  Taking feats such as weapon focus, etc.Dodge isn't a bad feat for monk's but it only applies to one enemy,and mobility is almost worthless because you probably won't have to worry about AOO because of your maxed out tumble skill.Spring attack limits you to one attack instead of three...there have got to be better feats you can think of....I personally can recommend Improved Grapple (esp with a high strength), Blind Fighting, Power Attack, Flying Kick.The types of characters that actually benefit from spring attack, are low hitpoint, low AC characters that do a great deal of damage per blow.  We have a character in our campaign designed for this use, a Fighter (1 level)/Thief who can tumble/spring attack into prosition, "sneak attack" an opponent by flanking the person (say he's fighting one of our front line fighters), with a bastard sword wielded in two hands (bastard sword damage + 1.5 times strenth +4d6 "sneak attack"...now that person is getting some good use out of the spring attack feat.I can't think of the ruling right now, but I'm almost certain you don't get 1.5 times your strength w/ either of those weapons when used with your unarmed BAB and flurry.  They are effectively using the weapons like "double weapons", but don't take the strenght penalty for attacking w/ a secondary weapon.</blockquote>

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