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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hopeless" data-source="post: 5454198" data-attributes="member: 36349">Help plan a heistSo a couple of questions here. 1) Is there a sewer system and if so an alternative means of getting inside the place? 2) If the bad guy is some kind of cleric then it should have additional defences which leads me to ask whether your players are going to runa paladin after all thats a serious amount of bad stuff being exuded from there, even underground it should be detectable. 3) Ambush those bad guys replace them with heroes in disguise and the person they're chasing is actually another hero and return to the mansion so they can be let in and cut loose! 4) Have the rogue or the player with the best underworld contacts learn whether the mayor has links to the thieves guild if not then find a suitable target he would have interest in say real estate and set upa rumour that suggest the owner needs money and lure the bad guy from the mansion on the pretext of making said deal say through an intermediary who of course is late to the meeting, set it oppoite town in a location he hould feel safe to visit. 5) Whilst he's busy killing said high level party go find what you're after and use the back window to escape before he's finished!After all if they're THAT high level it will take him a while finishing things after all! 6) Have a look at what equipment they have look into having large numbers of rodents, bugs or whatever found in the kitchen but not before letting a rumour spread of some infestation in the area, simply have them learn that the other problem areas was sorted by a firm of quiet and well mannered people with a talent in pest control and introduce them as checking into the problem and will clear the area for free since they're being paid to do a neighbouring site and the pr will do their firm good! 7) Wait for him to go out for that regular meeting of the town council, ambush a group of his employees heading out and return whilst he's out and then try and stealthily locate and obtain the said item whilst the others keep the rest of the guards busy with a couple of escape points one used to decoy pursuers and the other needs to be elaborate enough to escape scrutiny say finding a link to the sewers underground or a escape tunnel after all the bad guy will have an escape tunnel if he has his own underground church of vecna after all!</blockquote>

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